Comments Thread For: Golovkin Drops Monroe Three Times For TKO in Six

[IronDanHamza]

Because the only fighter on that list who you have a quarrel with statistically appears to be Cruz. So out of over 10 people you've got 1 who you disagree with. I've got the rest who appear to be, based of the eye test, in relatively the correct position.

Cruz also fights garbage cans with nothing to their name, I don't think it's difficult to have a low opponent connect percentage when you're a fighter that throws 90 punches a round against fighters of no merit.

inb4 all of Golovkins opponents are equivalent to Cruz's now.

How is it? He isn't the only fighter at all he's just the obvious stand out one.

What's difference does it make? He's on there, at the same % as Golovkin. That completely debunks the legitimacy of the list.

It means using it proves nothing.

And as for opposition, Golvokins opposition isn't as bad as Santa Cruz's. Not even close. But it's not a good level of opposition either.

[T18Z]

How is it? He isn't the only fighter at all he's just the obvious stand out one.

What's difference does it make? He's on there, at the same % as Golovkin. That completely debunks the legitimacy of the list.

It means using it proves nothing.

And as for opposition, Golvokins opposition isn't as bad as Santa Cruz's. Not even close. But it's not a good level of opposition either.

Nobody seems to be able to provide a fight that exhibits his bad defense excluding Murray, Monroe (pillow fighters) and Ouma (obvious circumstances surrounding the pre-fight preparation).

Now, if a fighter has bad defense, surely it would be consistently shown? Show me some consistency in his weak defense.

[SonofZorro]

Marilyn Monroe was weak

Marilyn was weak and frail but a white Ko'd a black is priceless. Put 200 Russians in Baltimore and Ferguson and let them go? Russians do not play.

[IronDanHamza]

Nobody seems to be able to provide a fight that exhibits his bad defense excluding Murray, Monroe (pillow fighters) and Ouma (obvious circumstances surrounding the pre-fight preparation).

Now, if a fighter has bad defense, surely it would be consistently shown? Show me some consistency in his weak defense.

In every fight I've watched he has defensive lapses and gets hit. He's just so much better than everyone he's fought it doesn't matter because he just blasted them out or they're in survival mode after 2 rounds.

The KO punch of Geale, his defense was poor, his power is just so devastating that he got away with it.

[IMDAZED]

So you've listed 3 fighters, out of like 30, who his defense hasn't looked good against.

I could bring up how Maidana made Mayweather look bad in the first fight, does that make Mayweathers defense overall bad? Of course not. I'm of course assuming that he discards defense against weaker hitters, because that appears to be a trend in those fights and the fact he's stated that's what he does post fight?

You say it's a theme with opponents who survive the early onslaught, any examples of that besides Murray, Ouma and Monroe?

If his defense was bad he'd be Ruslan, Chavez Jr or Rios, can we stop exaggerating? I'm not saying his defense is great, just good, moreso for his style and approach.

Let's be honest, out of all those opponents none of them are elite. So yep, if I see mediocre talent touching you up, it's safe to say your defense has holes.

[T18Z]

In every fight I've watched he has defensive lapses and gets hit. He's just so much better than everyone he's fought it doesn't matter because he just blasted them out or they're in survival mode after 2 rounds.

The KO punch of Geale, his defense was poor, his power is just so devastating that he got away with it.

Laughable, really. You give a punch landed on Golovkin, one punch, as a prime example? Surely you can do better than that, that's not even worth the time you spent writing it.

Let's be honest, out of all those opponents none of them are elite. So yep, if I see mediocre talent touching you up, it's safe to say your defense has holes.

Let's be honest, that's a terrible way to see something. What is elite? Is Maidana elite? Is Maidana an A class fighter? He touched up Floyd plenty, is that a means to discredit Mayweathers defense as a whole?

I never said his defense was amazing, I said it was good particularly for his style and approach. All defenses have holes, otherwise nobody would ever get hit... , doesn't mean it discredits it.

I'm done anyway, this won't end. Agree to disagree, I guess.

[livershot73]

Froch is Wards best win. GGG offered to go up in weight and face him in the UK. You know what he said? "We'll swerve him if we can, punches like a mule, dangerous fight".

Actually man, I think that was a reply to the question, " how would you fight GGG?" But still, that response from Froch who can also crack, just shows the respect he has for GGG....

[livershot73]

Who is Ward? I keep hearing his name but Ive looked for his fights from this year and last year and I see none. Is he retired?

Naw man...he went 1 - 2 in a trilogy with Goosen-Tudor Promotions....

[IMDAZED]

Let's be honest, that's a terrible way to see something. What is elite? Is Maidana elite? Is Maidana an A class fighter? He touched up Floyd plenty, is that a means to discredit Mayweathers defense as a whole?

I never said his defense was amazing, I said it was good particularly for his style and approach. All defenses have holes, otherwise nobody would ever get hit... , doesn't mean it discredits it.

I'm done anyway, this won't end. Agree to disagree, I guess.

No it's not terrible. Maidana is a far cry from Willie Monroe. And I'd be very impressed if GGG can beat that caliber of opponent at 38. ****, I'm waiting on him to beat that caliber of opponent now.

[IronDanHamza]

Laughable, really. You give a punch landed on Golovkin, one punch, as a prime example? Surely you can do better than that, that's not even worth the time you spent writing it.



Let's be honest, that's a terrible way to see something. What is elite? Is Maidana elite? Is Maidana an A class fighter? He touched up Floyd plenty, is that a means to discredit Mayweathers defense as a whole?

I never said his defense was amazing, I said it was good particularly for his style and approach. All defenses have holes, otherwise nobody would ever get hit... , doesn't mean it discredits it.

I'm done anyway, this won't end. Agree to disagree, I guess.

Not a prime example. Just an example of poor defense.

He doesn't have poor defense. Jus doesn't have good defense.