Floyd beating Manny means about as much as Lewis beating Tyson

[Fantasiabruja]

Enough with the dumb a*s excuses Floyd beat Pac and he deserves all the credit in the world period. Pac did nothing to make it a fight he was mediocre.

[megadeth]

NO version of Manny beats Floyd. If they had fought in 2009 Pac probably gets Ko'd because he was much more reckless then. Floyd was faster, stronger, smarter and just plain better. DEAL WITH IT!

If Pac thought he could beat Floyd 09-10, then he SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE UP NUMEROUS LIES WHY HE COULDN'T TAKE THE DRUG TESTING!!!!This fight told you why they wanted nothing to do with THAT FM.

[Lords]

Tonight, Floyd beat the 36 year old version of Pacquiao who failed to stop Algieri and Rios, lol. Big deal. And Pacquiao didn't have a single mark on his face so stop with this he got destroyed crap. Taken to school? Yea maybe- to Usaine Bolt's school of running/hugging lol.

The 30 year old Prime Pac who stopped Cotto would have beaten Floyd. Even this 36 year old shot Pac (who couldn't stop Algieri or drop bum bum Rios) had Mayweather on the ropes and was landing combos, and stole 4 rounds. If this was prime Pac from 5-6 years ago (the one who dropped Cotto twice) Floyd would have been seriously hurt or dropped in the 4th round. But the old shot Pacquiao just didn't have the power and stamina to do it.

Floyd was smart to duck Pac for the past 5 years because he knew his style aged far better than Pacquiao's, just like Lewis's style aged far better than Tyson's. But prime Tyson would still have destroyed lewis, just like prime Pac beats Floyd.

But hey, it is what it is. Boring ass fight with lots of running/hugging. Floyd won the fight by jabbing at a distance and hugging at close range. The old shot Manny of 2015 couldn't overcome the reach disadvantage, just like old shot tyson couldn't overcome Lewis's reach.

Wouldn't have worked against prime Pac with endless stamina and real power. And Still doesnt change the fact that 1). Floyd ducked prime Pac for 6 years and 2). Pac has won more world titles than Floyd and will be ranked higher historically.

To the flowmoes, do you really think that the 36 year old Pac of 2015 who failed to stop Algieri and Rios is even half the beast that the 30 year old prime Pac who stopped Cotto and Dela hoya was?

Tell me in the poll.

Manny did not finish off his last 2 fights within 12 but he dominated them. Finishing off fights within 12 doesn't mean jack shlt when you dominate them fairly easy. Pac is younger then Floyd and you guys act like Floyd is prime time and Manny is shot. If Manny or Floyd looked like shlt in there last couple fights then i could understand that there good times are passed them but Manny dominated Bradley who was a top 10 P4P fighter. Finishing off a tooth pick DLH and Cotto isn't saying much for your argument.

[Japanese Badass]

Your analogy of Tyson vs Lewis is seriously flawed. If you can't see that, then no amount of logic or argument is going to change things.

Lets just forget that Tyson went to prison, took heavy medications, and had messed up his entire life by the time he fought Lewis. Just disregard that and say his "style" is what made him age.

Tyson was not in wars like other prominent fighters have been in. He steamrolled the competition, and absolutely dominated boxing. So to say Tyson past his prime is just like Manny is ludicrous. It's insulting to anybody who knows anything about these two fighters.

Lastly, we aren't talking about who's prime this, and who's prime that. That's for the fantasy matchup thread. Leave it out of a discussion between two, yet to be inducted, hall of famers who just helped leapfrog boxing back into the spotlight. And one of which, clowned the other 10 out of 12 rounds.

Nonsense thread. Should be closed.

Lets just forget that Pac has been KTFO and has had probably more distractions outside the ring than Tyson.
The Pac who stopped Cotto 5 years ago would have destroyed the Pac of today who couldn't even stop Algieri.
Flowmoes want my thread closed because they can't handle the truth lmao. Floyd ducked prime Pac = FACT.

[megas30]

Exactly lol Manny's face was literally unmarked LOL. All Floyd do was Jab, run, clinch, repeat. He got away with it because old Pac no longer has the speed and stamina to overcome the reach disadvantage, just like old Tyson no longer could overcome Lewis's reach.

Prime Pac would have been different.

I am pretty sure someone might have told you that Floyd is older than Manny, so why you do still come here to embarrass yourself?

[sicko]

I will be honest, I don't think any version of Pacquiao beat Mayweather especially with TESTING! 5-6 Years ago Mayweather had even better legs and even better Reflexes

But Mayweather himself has always maintained "This Is Just Another Fight" the media and the fans are the ones who hyped this one and tried to put Pacquiao in Mayweather's League and find out the hard way that NO HE IS NOT in the same League as Mayweather as far as Boxing Skills are Concerned

If Pacquiao was older than Mayweather like Mosley and Oscar was, I would get the argument but that is not the case here.

Pacquiao was the guy everybody WANTED to be better than Mayweather, not because he ever was but because most just HATED MAYWEATHER!

[megas30]

Yes but Manny has sustained far more damage throughout his career which contribute to quickly shortening a fighter's prime. Floyd might be a couple of years older, but thanks to his safety style he was able to avoid a lot of punishment and as a result remain more fresher than Manny.

- Bermuda

Then maybe you guys, recognizing this, shouldn't have called for the fight. The Floyd that came to fight Marquez got Freddie shook.

[jamaalla1]

Tonight, Floyd beat the 36 year old version of Pacquiao who failed to stop Algieri and Rios, lol. Big deal. And Pacquiao didn't have a single mark on his face so stop with this he got destroyed crap. Taken to school? Yea maybe- to Usaine Bolt's school of running/hugging lol.

The 30 year old Prime Pac who stopped Cotto would have beaten Floyd. Even this 36 year old shot Pac (who couldn't stop Algieri or drop bum bum Rios) had Mayweather on the ropes and was landing combos, and stole 4 rounds. If this was prime Pac from 5-6 years ago (the one who dropped Cotto twice) Floyd would have been seriously hurt or dropped in the 4th round. But the old shot Pacquiao just didn't have the power and stamina to do it.

Floyd was smart to duck Pac for the past 5 years because he knew his style aged far better than Pacquiao's, just like Lewis's style aged far better than Tyson's. But prime Tyson would still have destroyed lewis, just like prime Pac beats Floyd.

But hey, it is what it is. Boring ass fight with lots of running/hugging. Floyd won the fight by jabbing at a distance and hugging at close range. The old shot Manny of 2015 couldn't overcome the reach disadvantage, just like old shot tyson couldn't overcome Lewis's reach.

Wouldn't have worked against prime Pac with endless stamina and real power. And Still doesnt change the fact that 1). Floyd ducked prime Pac for 6 years and 2). Pac has won more world titles than Floyd and will be ranked higher historically.

To the flowmoes, do you really think that the 36 year old Pac of 2015 who failed to stop Algieri and Rios is even half the beast that the 30 year old prime Pac who stopped Cotto and Dela hoya was?

Tell me in the poll.

The blasphemy. This is the dumbest thing I ever heard.

[Japanese Badass]

I am pretty sure someone might have told you that Floyd is older than Manny, so why you do still come here to embarrass yourself?

I'm sure you don't know sht about boxing. Lewis was also older than Tyson, but Tyson was still more shot due to his youth oriented style. Same thing with manny and floyd. It's not age it's styles.

Manny has declined far more, from stopping cotto to not being able to stop rios. Floyd went from struggling with Oscar to dominating canelo, so he has actually gotten better.

Foyd ducked prime Pac is fact.

[megas30]

You don't know sht abut boxing. Manny's style ages far worse than Floyd's because Manny relies on physical attributes which diminishes as one gets older. Floyd could still whitewash Canelo recently while Manny couldnt even hurt Rios or stop Algiery recently while 6 years ago he was stopping oscar hatton and cotto.
Face it, Floyd beating Manny at this point means about as much as Lews beating Tyson.

This is where you sound ******. Manny relies on "physical attributes" but Floyd is a complete package; he relies on his IQ, physical attributes and supreme boxing skills. Manny was never gonna beat Floyd. Freddy was the one waiting for Mayweather to slow down. How many times must Freddie say this before you guys really pay attention? Even up to this point, it is what Freddy was relying on, not realizing that Floyd does what he has to do...meaning if he has to box, slug, or whatever it takes, he will do to win.