Comments Thread For: Golden Boy, ABC, WBO Join In Pending Haymon Lawsuit

[In Motion]

They mad as hell. Too bad, so sad. Haymon taking over the game and NOTHING you can do about it.

[Barcham]

They mad as hell. Too bad, so sad. Haymon taking over the game and NOTHING you can do about it.

I came across this over at RING...

Obayifo????? LMAO
"And ABC is ****** considering they are sister stations with ESPN, whom Haymon cut a deal with to air some of his bouts. SMFH." ------Obayifo per the boxingscene forums.
There is some solid gold idiots there, lmao.

You are becoming famous on the Internet as a top notch idiot. LOL

[sicko]

All we can do is wait and see how this plays out, reading the Lawsuit, it sounds like concern competitors who doesn't have the money or the resources to get in and stay in on this game so because they can't afford to buy in, they now want to TAKE DOWN the winners at the table.

Only way this works is if the FIGHTERS file and start to complain about the way Haymon does operation. Judge will likely look at this as SOUR G****S and it won't go anywhere. If anything GBP, ABC and WBO could end up sending a lot of money just trying to continue such **** CASE!

Even the fans on this forum are SOUR and they think their Opinion on this forum somehow speaks for Majority of the PEOPLE. People tune in for the fighters, not who is Promoting and which Networking is Showing It. PBC, GBP, Top Rank, Who ever, if you give the fans good match ups...THEY WILL COME and THEY WILL WATCH!

[Tay Roc]

War GBP. End this monopoly.

[jas]

haymon is taking over boxing and this lawsuit isnt gonna stop the takeover

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Good ****. Take this slimy ****er down!

[Scipio2009]

Fair enough.

I just don't see how that concern would relate to what Haymon has done; especially with the investment group being far more interested in the possibility of securing the future content distribution deals (that'll hopefully grow over the years) rather than what fights end up on any one fight card.

[Scipio2009]

Not entirely. The Ali Act also attempts to address the conflict of interest created by a manager acting as (or profiting from) a promoter. The "manager" has a fiduciary duty to focus solely on the best interests of the fighter. A conflict of interest is created if he also has a stake in the success of a particular event or promotion, and he certainly cant answer to an investment group who loaned him $425 million dollars without creating even yet another conflict. The interests of the fighter and the interests of the investor are in direct conflict

The same way a "manager" cannot represent both sides of a fight. Everything negotiated for fighter A (purse, weight, gloves, venue, etc) comes at the expense of fighter B. It is impossible to give your best efforts to 2 opposing interests.

People who dont know anything like to spout off that Haymon is an "advisor", or blah blah blah. He is in fact a licensed manager, and must operate under those laws. He can call himself a belly dancer if he wants to, it doesnt change the fact that he is a manager

Exactly. Anyone saying Haymon is providing a better service has their head so far up Haymon's arse they can't see the truth. The only ones who benefit are Haymon fighters. They sign to him for one reason it's because he is able to secure them high fight purses for gross mismatches. He will protect them from having to fight better competition and they can minimize the threat of losing based on those mismatches. That's great for the fighters big pay days for easy fights but unless you are a fighter this is terrible for boxing fans. As a boxing fan I could care less that Broner makes 1.5 mil for the joke fight with Molina.

PBC is a inferior product with mismatches. Haymon is not boxing's savior. He could careless about boxing and is just trying to milk money out of boxing. He's a crook. Which if he was just that I wouldn't mind. But he's a crook who puts a stop gap to the fights boxing fans want to see. If you are a haymon fighter you can't fight Canelo, Kovelev, Cotto, Crawford, Ward, Mattyhsee, ect. So you are stuck with Haymon fighers exclusively fighting in house which wouldn't be terrible except he won't put his best fighters against each other either. So you get every promoter accusing Haymon of killing the chance of any fights with them and Haymon being accused of mismatches in his own stable. How the Hell is this good for Boxing? But let's all celebrate this shady crook because Broner gets to keep making 1mil plus for fighting tomato cans. Boxing fans are already hip to Haymon's BS which is why PBC tv ratings are falling and they are forced to give away tickets because nobody is buying them. And now the promoters and associations are tired of it too and the lawsuit will only grow with others joining in to rid boxing of the Haymon cancer.

In the last 2 months, there have been 4-5 fight cards affiliated to HBO, one of those being an amalgam of two seperate shows.

How many of those shows have actually delivered fight cards where folks are left feeling "yes, I got good value for the money I spent"?

The Kovalev-Pascal fight just managed to save what turned out to be a horrid Kovalev-Pascal fight card. You look at the Verona fight card and the Texas Arena fight card, and you're left not all that impressed with what was actually offered.

Say what you want, Haymon delivers value for money to the fight fan. You run down the last ten fight cards tied to Haymon, and you can't say much about the cards, especially when compared to what the competing outfits are putting on.

Lastly the only promoters/associations making a current stink about this whole thing are the outfits facing extinction if Haymon's plan works. (Haymon just vacated another WBO belt, telling the organization to go flick themselves when they tried to pull rank on the Kameda/McDonnell fight, and Oscar/Top Rank/Association of Boxing Commissions are all tied to HBO, a network that is likely to give up their efforts with boxing (especially with Haymon in a position to offer top dollar on every premium fight not tied exclusively to HBO).


You add that not a single fighter, even the one's not with him anymore, have come forward to put their name on this faulty effort, and the desperation is even more apparent.

[HanzGruber]

War GBP. End this monopoly.

Why's Tay tay banned. Sad day in nsb history

[sicko]

All we can do is wait and see how this plays out, reading the Lawsuit, it sounds like concern competitors who doesn't have the money or the resources to get in and stay in on this game so because they can't afford to buy in, they now want to TAKE DOWN the winners at the table.

Only way this works is if the FIGHTERS file and start to complain about the way Haymon does operation. Judge will likely look at this as SOUR G****S and it won't go anywhere. If anything GBP, ABC and WBO could end up spending a lot of money just trying to continue such **** CASE!

Even the fans on this forum are SOUR and they think their Opinion on this forum somehow speaks for Majority of the PEOPLE. People tune in for the fighters, not who is Promoting and which Networking is Showing It. PBC, GBP, Top Rank, Who ever, if you give the fans good match ups...THEY WILL COME and THEY WILL WATCH!

Boxing Scene? Do you guys have new rules or something? What is with the Changing of Post?