Boxer vs. kick boxer video

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Genki Sudo submitting Butterbean

For people who never saw that.



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the boxer is a fool to think that he can go into the ring without any kind of training and preperation to defend against a kick.

he knew that it wasn't just boxing and if he didn't he's a dumbass.

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rwk, cool, not my cup of tea, but it is MA none the less. how do you guys manage injuries with only 3 oz gloves. i spar with 3-4 oz mma gloves without head shots, but use 8-10 oz boxing gloves when including head contact.

you must do jj, sub wrestling, or bjj to an extent which seems to be a bit easier on the punching/kicking injury aspect during training.

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ahh yes, genki is awesome!!!

my personal favorite next to saku.

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rwk, cool, not my cup of tea, but it is MA none the less. how do you guys manage injuries with only 3 oz gloves. i spar with 3-4 oz mma gloves without head shots, but use 8-10 oz boxing gloves when including head contact.

you must do jj, sub wrestling, or bjj to an extent which seems to be a bit easier on the punching/kicking injury aspect during training.

We wear mouthpieces, pull most punches and never try and load up. Elbows are a different story however...and I had to get stitches on the side of my head two months ago from them.

Whenever we get on the ground....someone always gets mad and starts G'n'P'ing...and then we let off.

Its hard not to get injured, and I spar with friends injured. We're all friends and nobody tries to hurt eachother knowing we have an injury.

9/10 times we go for the chokehold anyways....that's the way to end it quick.



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ahh i see. rwk, do you ever put on a light chest protector and go at it full contact with the punches. of course, if you put on some boxing gloves you can do away with the vest. btw, i'm not talking about those wimpy well cushioned chest protectors. i'll tell ya, it's pretty fun. and a ground game definitely needs to be supported by a stand up game. that was one thing that most of the gracies' didn't have much of, so they ended up losing to sakuraba because he was solid on the ground and had a decent(not the greatest) stand up game.

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ahh i see. rwk, do you ever put on a light chest protector and go at it full contact with the punches. of course, if you put on some boxing gloves you can do away with the vest. btw, i'm not talking about those wimpy well cushioned chest protectors. i'll tell ya, it's pretty fun. and a ground game definitely needs to be supported by a stand up game. that was one thing that most of the gracies' didn't have much of, so they ended up losing to sakuraba because he was solid on the ground and had a decent(not the greatest) stand up game.

First off...the chest protector sounds like fun.

And you couldn't be more dead on the money. That Brazilan JJ style has it's striking limitations....most of the strikes stem from elbows. When put in mount position....you're helpless. That's how Saku exploited those mismatches.

My fighting on the ground is subperb, but I really don't know much about boxing...or counterpunching for that matter. I'm not a very good striker with my hands and prefer to knee someone in a clinch when standing up....always protecting the twig and berries however. I have pretty fast hands, but that really doesn't mean anything unless I can piece together shots...or even land.

I need to work on punching techniques and footwork in order to compliment this yes. I learned virtually everything by watching Bas Rutten tapes and reading the Big Book of Combat...following training methods.

I consider that my ultimate source of knowledge outside of what I read on this forum...and what we practice.

My style originates from shootfighting primarily.



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[j]

oh yes, i know elbows. been caught with one recently right to the mouth - with no mouthguard. **** i'm glad i still have my front teeth intact with only a very slight, non noticable, chipping. but, as you know, it comes with the territory.

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oh yes, i know elbows. been caught with one recently right to the mouth - with no mouthguard. **** i'm glad i still have my front teeth intact with only a very slight, non noticable, chipping. but, as you know, it comes with the territory.

What makes them nasty....is their piercing effect. Punches landed flush usually are accompanied with a crack, and a temporary loss of consciousness.

Elbows are like tack hammers pounding on you...they irritate, hurt and frustrate.



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ahh yes, genki is awesome!!!

Awesome

This one's cool too



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