Why don't people acknowledge Joe Calzaghes Undefeated record?

[KillaMane26]

Cuz his resume isnt that impressive.....He does deserve more credit for beating Hopkins tho

[mathed]

He's a white boy.

[MrP4P]

I just think its because he didnt fight out here and he was like Roman Gonzalez in that sense, and by the time he came here it was too late. Although he made quite an impression

I still think Froch would have won lol

But I think highly of Carl Froch

[mneronava2k]

...because not everyone is English. I think he's properly rated--as someone who didn't do enough to be an ATG.

I had Hopkins eeking him out

[pacmanis1]

How's one of those fighters who's fans do him no favors. He's a solid talent but the fact that his nuthuggers claim he is some kind of ATG is absurd. Kessler was a good win. Hopkins was a good win. Sorry but exposing Lacy and beating up an old Jones are not the stuff ATG legacies are made of.

[Buckfever]

All of his fights save for the last two, took place overseas. He had virtually no U.S. exposure, and the only notable American fighters he faced were past-prime Jones and Hopkins, and an overrated Lacy, who couldn't take a punch.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...5364&cat=boxer

This. It's like taking easy classes and getting straight As, who gives a schit.

[The Hammer]

His 2nd and 3rd best wins were vs. past prime 40+ year old fighters.

He only ever fought ONE opponent over 40.

That was Bernard Hopkins, who went on to beat world titleholders Pascal, Pavlik, Cloud and Shumenov, so he couldn't have been much past his prime despite his age.

I scored it 114-113 Hopkins.

I've seen your scores in the RBR threads, you haven't yet learned how to score fights objectively.

[Redd Foxx]

It only happens on forums because most forum regulars are computer geeks that don't understand just how hard it is to put on relentless pressure the way Joe did. In my experience, bring up Calzaghe in a boxing gym and the name garners nothing but respect. The guy was the poster boy for conditioning and workrate. Conditioning is the hardest and most unpleasant form of training but it means everything in the ring. Yea, most people know him for his later fights, when his hands were brittle and wrecked. But, he was an aggressive SOB who beat guys by being unrelenting. He was past prime by the time he was able to land the big fights in America.

[SN!PER]

I blame the Hopkins - Calzaghe fight.

He got a gift decision and then refused a rematch.

[IronDanHamza]

Because his resume is diabolical.

Fought 3 fighters in the top 5 in his entire career, one was Jeff Lacy and another was a razor close decision over a 44 year old Hopkins.

That's why.