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  • #51
    Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
    Listen dopey ,you responded to me on how much better Alis era of fighters were imade the comparison to how that is false by using Wlad as a measuring stick how he would fare in the 60's take the needle out of your arm....
    Dafuq are you on about?

    When did i say that in this thread? I only said that Ali clinched when he had too, against some of the best of his era, Wlad clinches against guys who are considered bums in this era.

    Its a struggle debating with you juggernaut.

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    • #52
      I posted this before, most on this forum would label Ali a "Runner" and a "Cheater" in this ERA of boxing considering how people Criticize Ward, Wlad, Mayweather and Rigondeaux

      That being said, what Wlad does is not Clinching, he is putting guys in Headlocks and Leaning on that and he Bear Hugs them not when they're throwing punches but after he punches and even land punches he falls in and grab and Lean in the middle of the ring.

      I think it is a joke though how people want to use Ali to defend Wlad Clinches but for other fighters if they was to do what Wlad did he last 2 Fights which was spend most of the fight Clinching more that he throws punches, many of you would be bashing that fight with Multiple Threads.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by sicko View Post
        I posted this before, most on this forum would label Ali a "Runner" and a "Cheater" in this ERA of boxing considering how people Criticize Ward, Wlad, Mayweather and Rigondeaux

        That being said, what Wlad does is not Clinching, he is putting guys in Headlocks and Leaning on that and he Bear Hugs them not when they're throwing punches but after he punches and even land punches he falls in and grab and Lean in the middle of the ring.

        I think it is a joke though how people want to use Ali to defend Wlad Clinches but for other fighters if they was to do what Wlad did he last 2 Fights which was spend most of the fight Clinching more that he throws punches, many of you would be bashing that fight with Multiple Threads.

        Did you not watch the video i supplied, Ali did double figure head locks in the first round ffs Count them....wlad does about 3/4 on a bad round, which half the time are not his fault...

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        • #54
          Originally posted by slimshandy69 View Post
          Did you not watch the video i supplied, Ali did double figure head locks in the first round ffs Count them....wlad does about 3/4 on a bad round, which half the time are not his fault...
          Yeah but Ali would also eventually starting doing stuff like this in his fights:


          and this:


          Not just hug it out for the Decision

          I been defending Wlad style, I don't have a problem with his style, Ward style or what ever. It is their opponent job to do something about it, what I Don't Like is the Hypocrites on this forum who b1tch about other fighters tactics but then turn around try to DEFEND Wlad Tactics.
          Last edited by sicko; 04-26-2015, 01:34 PM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by sicko View Post
            I posted this before, most on this forum would label Ali a "Runner" and a "Cheater" in this ERA of boxing considering how people Criticize Ward, Wlad, Mayweather and Rigondeaux

            That being said, what Wlad does is not Clinching, he is putting guys in Headlocks and Leaning on that and he Bear Hugs them not when they're throwing punches but after he punches and even land punches he falls in and grab and Lean in the middle of the ring.

            I think it is a joke though how people want to use Ali to defend Wlad Clinches but for other fighters if they was to do what Wlad did he last 2 Fights which was spend most of the fight Clinching more that he throws punches, many of you would be bashing that fight with Multiple Threads.
            And Ali was called a runner back then. Trying to make an argument that Wlad shouldn't be criticized because of Ali is dumb since Ali was and is criticized.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
              And Ali was called a runner back then. Trying to make an argument that Wlad shouldn't be criticized because of Ali is dumb since Ali was and is criticized.
              Actually my point is the opposite, if you're going to Criticize other fighters for their antics, you should criticize ALL don't bash who you don't like but then turn around and try to defend who you do like which is what I'm seeing Wlad fans do!

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              • #57
                Originally posted by sicko View Post
                Yeah but Ali would also eventually starting doing stuff like this in his fights:


                and this:


                Not just huge it out for the Decision

                I been defending Wlad style, I don't have a problem with his style, Ward style or what ever. It is their opponent job to do something about it, what I Don't Like is the Hypocrites on this forum who b1tch about other fighters tactics but then turn around try to DEFEND Wlad Tactics.
                But its not wlads fault

                I watched the jennings fight again and it was hardly wlads fault, often jennings didnt bother fighting out, and wlads hands were free most of the time. its up to jennings whos the faster man to fight his way out.

                Ali did horrendous clinches in round 1, they were both free fighters, and he was simply headlocking them.

                Wlads a better more Atheltic specimen than Ali.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by sicko View Post
                  Actually my point is the opposite, if you're going to Criticize other fighters for their antics, you should criticize ALL don't bash who you don't like but then turn around and try to defend who you do like which is what I'm seeing Wlad fans do!
                  That wasn't directed at you, it was agreeing with you. Just to clear that up.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Tom Cruise View Post
                    Dafuq are you on about?

                    When did i say that in this thread? I only said that Ali clinched when he had too, against some of the best of his era, Wlad clinches against guys who are considered bums in this era.

                    Its a struggle debating with you juggernaut.
                    You are a fool anyone that looks from your first response to me ,it shows you clearly said Ali was better in the 60's and fought in the best era of boxing....you really are a dope!i'll end it there.Again...
                    Last edited by juggernaut666; 04-26-2015, 01:48 PM.

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                    • #60
                      It makes little sense when I see someone claim we shouldn't compare across eras, all along maintaining the 70s simply must be the greatest era ever. Maybe this is the greatest era ever. This one or the 90s.

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