Does Boxing need a Super Heavyweight Division of 225 +

[Tom Cruise]

I will level with you one step here Tom Cruise..

I made a mistake..

Wladimir Klitschko's average opponent weight is 240lbs!

The AVERAGE boxer weight in the HW division is ONLY around 225-230lbs!

So I can see the knowledge in not having the lower limit set at around the average weight!

I have always figured 215 to be a very relevant new limit that guys like Haye could have easily gotten above and have done. The main effect is that is allows Cruisers to be bigger too.

When would YOU raise the limit?

I'd raise it when smaller fighters are at a significant disadvantage because of their weight.

The division was filled with fighters as big and skilled as Klitschko then you guys would have a valid point. As it is IMO only Klitschko is showing that his weight is a significant advantage, and only then because he is more skilled than his opponents.

[Elroy1]

I'm for 215. Raising the limits so that the HW limit is 215 would work. Or introducing a SuperCruiser in between could do also.

I think given the circumstances 225 was a bit high.

I guess Mr. Tom Cruise did have some worthwhile point there.

[Spray_resistant]

I don't think that anyone would agree to change the 175 limit for LHW. It is one of the original historical weights classes

Stating that we should do anything because that is the way we have always done it is not a rational basis for anything, the gap between Cruiser and LHW is too big, lets call Cruiser Super Light heavy, it gives people an idea of how big the guys are.

[Elroy1]

I'd raise it when smaller fighters are at a significant disadvantage because of their weight.

The division was filled with fighters as big and skilled as Klitschko then you guys would have a valid point. As it is IMO only Klitschko is showing that his weight is a significant advantage, and only then because he is more skilled than his opponents.

Yeah I was unnecessarily dismissive.

My bad!

[Cinci Champ]

i used to wonder the same exact thing. i think there is arguments for both sides i think its a good idea but it would probably be a dead division as most at that weight would fight heavyweight anyway

[babynuts]

Well it depends how you look at it. You can look at it this way...

If you take Haye v Wlad and scale it down to where the weight classes change frequently. Wlad was 30lbs heavier in that fight and 4 inches taller? So in effect, if you scaled Haye down to a Welterweight, in relative terms and scaled proportionately, Wlad would be a Light-Heavyweight, which is about 30lbs heavier and usually around 4 inches taller. Now would you put Floyd Mayweather in with Kovalev and say it's a fair fight? not at all. But that's essentially what it is, no matter which way you spin it, the facts and numbers and relevance don't lie.

Obviously that may be the wrong way to look at it but it is definitely worth thinking about. But then where do you make the cut off points?

There are also a lot of heavyweights carrying too much weight. Look at somebody like Solis, with his frame and height there is no reason for him to weigh as much as he does apart from lack of dedication. You would hope that if the heavyweight was split into two divisions at 225, it would make these fat fighters who should easily be below 225 to get down to those weights that they should be.

[Elroy1]

Yeah but babynuts a lb is not a lb.

It's the weight percentage that counts.

The weight ratio dirrerence between Wlad and Haye is much less than it would be between Floyd and Kovalev.

We see a 25lb wide division already between cruiser and heavy.

[sicko]

YES! Long overdue!

[juggernaut666]

I'm for 215. Raising the limits so that the HW limit is 215 would work. Or introducing a SuperCruiser in between could do also.

I think given the circumstances 225 was a bit high.

I guess Mr. Tom Cruise did have some worthwhile point there.

215 wont really change much anything since HW's are going to be at least 225 for the most part,by making a HW or super heavy weight class of 225 +The Hw division will truly separate the disparaging differences in the actual weight..its still unfair for a 215/220 pounder to fight at Hw..if that were to happen all those 215 pounders will just drop down ,you wont see anyone remoptly 220 in that Hw class.I think the 225 point is very reasonable.My opinion was to get rid of the cruiser weight and just have a light Hw and HW divisons ....simple and clear cut adding a super cruiser will only add to the already existing problems with confusion in boxing.My personal opinion I would like a super HW division of 225 + eliminate cruiser and alter the LHW and HW divison evenly. ,they have SHW in Olympics I believe why not in the pros?

[juggernaut666]

Transnational Boxing rankings top 10

Heavyweight
Champion: Wladimir Klitschko
1. Alexander Povetkin
2. Tyson Fury
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Kubrat Pulev
5. Bermane Stiverne
6. Carlos Takam
7. Vyacheslav Glazkov
8. Bryant Jennings
9. Steve Cunningham
10. Mike Perez

The ones in red either are, or should be, below 225lbs.

Tbh im not convinced someone like Stiverne wouldnt be down.at 225 if he was in better shape.

But dey all 6'4+ and 240lbs, doe

Wilder is listed and weighed in at some of his fights at 235...