Does Boxing need a Super Heavyweight Division of 225 +

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  • Tom Cruise
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    #71
    Originally posted by Elroy1
    Err.. At the top end? Yes we definitely DO!

    IF you are implying we should eliminate the inbetween divisions, that is an entirely different issue to increasing the end point of the weight scales.

    Obviously!

    And as for Tom Cruise...

    I notice you mentioned Glazkov as an example of a top ranked HW who is on the smaller side.

    Please indicate for me a single superHW whom Glazkov has fought yet?

    See what I'm getting at. It could very well be that Glazkov will be beaten and eliminated from the top 10 as soon as he "steps up" to the larger+decent guys.

    Loads of boxers have built themselves up feasting on the smaller men only to struggle when they fight boxers their own size. It's a staple of boxing really. Rid**** Bowe when he fought Golota. Foreman when he fought Lyle!
    True Glazcov's resume is thin right now. I dont think he will ever make it to the top of the divisio.

    I dont think that changes my point though.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Tom Cruise
      In his most important fight so far he weighed 219lbs. He obviously feels thats his best weight. He looked strong, powerful and fast.



      My point, which has obviously sailed straight over your head, is that size isnt the definjng factor in Wlads career. He looks equally dominant, if not more so, fighting opponents who are as big or bigger than him. If half the top ten are at or under 225, then where is the evidence that you need to cut of the division there?



      I didnt realise Perez was that big to be fair. Maybe 225 would be a stretch but he cojld easily get under 230 if he was in peak condition.
      you cannot win an argument over one fight,thats dumb ....you failed to mention the top ten Hw's weights accurate also.....no one will beat wlad under 225,no way or how unless landing a lucky puncjh,a hard lucky punch,,,,,yes LUCKY....

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        #73
        Originally posted by juggernaut666
        you cannot win an argument over one fight,thats dumb ....you failed to mention the top ten Hw's weights accurate also.....no one will beat wlad under 225,no way or how unless landing a lucky puncjh,a hard lucky punch,,,,,yes LUCKY....
        Then why do many consider Wilder his biggest threat?

        And before Wilder why did many consider Haye or Povetkin his biggest threats?

        And why before them were Chagaev or Ibragimov?

        Wlad takes everyone apart at heavyweight. Its not just about his size.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Tom Cruise
          Then why do many consider Wilder his biggest threat?

          And before Wilder why did many consider Haye or Povetkin his biggest threats?

          And why before them were Chagaev or Ibragimov?

          Wlad takes everyone apart at heavyweight. Its not just about his size.
          Wilder is 235.

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            #75
            Originally posted by juggernaut666
            Wilder is 235.
            Except for his biggest fight where he came in at his best fighting weight.

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              #76
              Does that make every fight Primo Carnera had a catchweight?

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                #77
                Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
                Does that make every fight Primo Carnera had a catchweight?
                Carnera was the worst champion ,if you want to lable him that? In history.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666
                  Carnera was the worst champion ,if you want to lable him that? In history.
                  Oh he wasn't the best.. but a champion. I can see where Klitschko studied his jab at 4:35

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                    #79
                    Did we just see Wlad struggle again with a so called smaller Heavyweight?

                    I think we did. Couldnt have anything to do with the superior movement could it?

                    Shall we compare last nights fight to the fight he had with 245lb Pulev?

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