Comments Thread For: Kovalev, Main Events Withdraw From Stevenson Purse Bid

[Pigeons]

Why do they have to call Stevenson's bluff, why can't GYM negotiate with Main Events to put the fight on if they want it? They can still negotiate now, will they?

You don't have to be psychic to know GYM didn't want Kovalev as Stevenson's mandatory, because they openly complained about it. Nor do you do have to be psychic to know GYM didn't try to make an agreement with Main Events because again they stated as much clearly.

So you have a promotional company who doesn't want the mandatory, doesn't want to deal with the other promoter yet claim to want the fight? Believe them?

Duva only cared about this fight when her guy was the hunter. When her guy was looking for a breakthrough. He got that breakthrough with Hopkins. Duva doesn't care about the big fights anymore, just her relationship with HBO. That's why Kovalev said that he'll do whatever his promoter wants in the Pascal post fight interview. Their chase of Stevenson is over. They are now businessmen, like Floyd Mayweather and Gennady Golovkin.

[Weebler I]

Spot on analysis. Only thing i would add is yes I understand why HBO is trying to block, they only looking out for themselves which is fine. Main events going along with it to not jeopardize its long term existence. Fine I get that. That's business. But then why the **** was she blasting the fighter for maximizing his earnings. In this situation kovalev gets screwed, by not getting the biggest payday. He was talking **** too. ****ing hypocrites.

Wasn't she blasting him for reneging on an agreement to fight?

As far as Main Events were concerned the Kovalev-Stevenson fight was made only for them to pull out.

weebler, See above. Also see below.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...8#post15567828

Sergey was already signed to HBO when she asked for the purse bid, which kills your argument Weebler.

That link is to your own post, there's another link you wanted to put in?

Duva only cared about this fight when her guy was the hunter. When her guy was looking for a breakthrough. He got that breakthrough with Hopkins. Duva doesn't care about the big fights anymore, just her relationship with HBO. That's why Kovalev said that he'll do whatever his promoter wants in the Pascal post fight interview. Their chase of Stevenson is over. They are now businessmen, like Floyd Mayweather and Gennady Golovkin.

They just fought Hopkins and Pascal, and want to fight Stevenson, were talking about rematching Pascal later this year.

Granted they're not going across to PBC for it, but that's a different matter.

[kurupt1019]

Appreciate the honesty. Is what it is, but after a whole year plus of killing Adonis in the press and in post fight interviews, Kov can't just sit by and let this fight go away.

I think the WBC has made some fan friendly decisions lately (despite not making Floyd defend the 154lb titles). I think Kathy pushed for it and the WBC did this to make solidify the fight to make sure what happened with HBO didn't happen again.

I think HBO told Kathy they wouldn't allow an out in the next contract for the Stevenson fight (assuming they lost the purse bid) so she had to do this to save face. She isn't going to not resign with HBO and lose out on guaranteed money.

sanctioning bodies are changing their ways recently, they have joint meeting apparently. which is why you will and have seen more unifying fights. They see that if they dont adapt the belts will become meaningless. Remember that ****** WBC rule where the beltholder cant hold any other orgs belt. Thats now abolished I believe.

[kafkod]

Also, even going back to 2013...this was 2nd biggest fight to be made in boxing behind May/Pac. (I know, I know...maybe any combination of Cotto/GGG/Canelo or GGG/Froch/Ward/Chavez could be big too...but again...humor me)

IF it's the second biggest fight to be made only behind May/Pac and you're Adonis and Sergey...wouldn't you both say to each other..."you know what? If the world wants this so bad...why should we take a basic HBO fight fee of just over a million?"

In this case, you can do two things...

1. You let the fight "marinate" and build it to where a network like HBO invests more given the demand you build over time.

or

2. You shop the fight around to other places to maximize your profits.

Yvon and Haymon were smart. They did BOTH of these things. They had faith in Adonis to keep him in stay-busy fights (it's boxing remember...anything can happen) knowing that a Kovalev fight will still be there.

They rolled with the punches and waited for Duva to make her move, and when she did, they took it upon themselves to get together the biggest bid in history according to Yvon (check his twitter feed). This then means it can go a network that brings in the most money. In this case, it would be one of the Haymon affiliated networks.

Doing this was genius, rather than doing the bull**** Lame Events business plan of just keeping Kovalev in against guys for the basic HBO money. Kovalev had to go anywhere...Hopkins in AC for less than a million. He had to go to Pascal to get a pay day. He really has no leverage at all.

Duva is sticking by the same bull**** that has ruined boxing for years. Taking site and network fees to put her fighters in situations where they can never cross over. And now she's preventing Kovalev's biggest payday.

Beterbiev in under ten fights is making close to what Kovalev is making now!!! That's the power of creativity, Haymon, GYM, and the Québec market.

If the Duck Team really believed Adonis could beat Kovalev there would have been no need to avoid him and let the fight marinate, as you suggest. That only makes sense if they were thinking "cash out".

Otherwise, the best option would have been to get Kovalev out of the way first, take his belt, then go on to a unification fight against BHop with ALL the belts on the line.

That would have been a HUGE fight, even bigger than Kovalev/Stevenson. After that, Stevenson vs Pascal, for the unified LHW titles, another huge and lucrative payday for Adonis.

The reason Haymon didn't go down that route is obvious. He knew that the chances of Stevenson beating Kovalev were remote, and they still are.

[The Big Dunn]

Wasn't she blasting him for reneging on an agreement to fight?

As far as Main Events were concerned the Kovalev-Stevenson fight was made only for them to pull out.



That link is to your own post, there's another link you wanted to put in?



They just fought Hopkins and Pascal, and want to fight Stevenson.

Granted they're not going across to PBC for it, but that's a different matter.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...urse-bid-order

yes, the actual HBO article above. That's where I took the quote from.

[kurupt1019]

Wasn't she blasting him for reneging on an agreement to fight?

As far as Main Events were concerned the Kovalev-Stevenson fight was made only for them to pull out.



That link is to your own post, there's another link you wanted to put in?



They just fought Hopkins and Pascal, and want to fight Stevenson.

Granted they're not going across to PBC for it, but that's a different matter.

First of all there was no signed contracts and firm agreement in place. Second of all even if there was, he "pulled" out to ear more money. And read what she blasted him for. That and calling him a "ducker" kovalev as well called him out.

Now in this case, the team with the most money will put up the fight, no reason not to do it other than Main Events looking out for Main Events. They were blasting Adonis for making a business decision, now they are doing the exact same thing.

[Weebler I]

First of all there was no signed contracts and firm agreement in place. Second of all even if there was, he "pulled" out to ear more money. And read what she blasted him for. That and calling him a "ducker" kovalev as well called him out.

Now in this case, the team with the most money will put up the fight, no reason not to do it other than Main Events looking out for Main Events. They were blasting Adonis for making a business decision, now they are doing the exact same thing.

They contended otherwise, a Court was supposed to decide (until B-Hop came in) but I'm just saying, that was the main reason they were irate.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...urse-bid-order

yes, the actual HBO article above. That's where I took the quote from.

What was the point you were making with the quote?

[The Big Dunn]

What was the point you were making with the quote?

The fact Kov has been signed to HBO when Duva 1st asked for the purse bid kills the argument you made in the post below.

GYM never tried to make an agreement, they complained about Kovalev being made mandatory and wrote to the WBC to speed up the purse bid knowing Haymon had the bigger chequebook to get rid of the problem quickly.

PBC and Haymon playing with investor's money wasn't a thing when Main Events requested mandatory status. Now it is, and HBO/Main Events were unwilling to let Kovalev cross networks.
Team Stevenson get what they wanted, HBO protect their asset, while Main Events, Kovalev and the fans lose out.

[Kenchiro]

It's pretty obvious HBO doesn't want this to go to a purse bid in fear of Main Event getting outbid by Al Haymon. Kovalev is probably the hottest thing going for Main Event and HBO along with GGG. They're not going to risk somebody they have invested a lot in for Haymon to take it to PBC. I'm pretty sure Haymon and the WBC has their own thing going on too with the purse bid. It's pretty much politics and chessmatch right now. Take a look back at the Hopkins/Stevenson situation, it's repeating itself.

I'm not sure Kovalev/Stevenson happens anytime soon although I wish I could be wrong. The only thing to come out of this is Stevenson has a good chance to lose sooner than later when he ACTUALLY faces a legit opponent so he can disappear to oblivion....

[The Big Dunn]

It's pretty obvious HBO doesn't want this to go to a purse bid in fear of Main Event getting outbid by Al Haymon. Kovalev is probably the hottest thing going for Main Event and HBO along with GGG. They're not going to risk somebody they have invested a lot in for Haymon to take it to PBC. I'm pretty sure Haymon and the WBC has their own thing going on too with the purse bid. It's pretty much politics and chessmatch right now. Take a look back at the Hopkins/Stevenson situation, it's repeating itself.

I'm not sure Kovalev/Stevenson happens anytime soon although I wish I could be wrong. The only thing to come out of this is Stevenson has a good chance to lose sooner than later when he ACTUALLY faces a legit opponent so he can disappear to oblivion....

Duva asked to be made the mando and requested the purse bid dude. WHy are you bringing up Haymon?