Why don't people get what Haymon is doing?

[thiefery]

Exactly.

Which is how you know that a portion of the "PBC's-'boring'-matchups-are-a-problem" crowd is talking out of their arse.

Those cards Duva was putting on were comparable to espn FNF cards. And she didn't have the stable that Al has, but Worked with other promoters to off set that.

PBC is suppose to compete with HBO, ****, they're spending more than them at this point

[Barcham]

So typical.

Blaming PBC for not addressing the 'real problem' like 'the political in fighting between promoters', when in fact PBC, if successful, will all but eliminate the power and influence of the same greedy and corrupt promoters that fighters and fight fans have been complaining are ruining boxing for the past 40 years.

But you're too busy b!tching about the lack of ring girls and in-ring entourages (seriously, bruh?) to see the big picture.

But do you.

So you see no problem with having one person making all the decisions in the sport, controlling everything and locking out those who refuse to sign with him?

I do not want ANY SINGLE PERSON having that much control over the sport. Not Haymon, not Arum, not Oscar, NO ONE. Let Haymon cancel all his personal contracts with all his fighters and run his boxing league and I have no problem with it. Having one person running everything while at the same time being his employees advisor and manager is too crooked for my taste. He either represents his investors and his new boxing organization OR he represents fighters. One or the other, not both. That is a conflict of interest and anyone who is unable to see that is either blind or just ******.

[thiefery]

So you see no problem with having one person making all the decisions in the sport, controlling everything and locking out those who refuse to sign with him?

I do not want ANY SINGLE PERSON having that much control over the sport. Not Haymon, not Arum, not Oscar, NO ONE. Let Haymon cancel all his personal contracts with all his fighters and run his boxing league and I have no problem with it. Having one person running everything while at the same time being his employees advisor and manager is too crooked for my taste. He either represents his investors and his new boxing organization OR he represents fighters. One or the other, not both. That is a conflict of interest and anyone who is unable to see that is either blind or just ******.

PBC would have a great chance to really put boxing in the fore front. He wouldn't even have to play nice with other promoters, if he just matched up his fighters better. That then would force other promoters to up the ante.

But the way this is playing Out, his top fighters will only fight twice a year in showcase events..

[Sweet Jones]

What makes you think PBC would in fact make those sought after fights? They have the stable to put on great match-ups, yet we get over matched fights..

They've had three cards so far. Give them time.

IMO, it looks like they are introducing their stable to new fans through competitive fights and alot of human interest stories of those fighters. The next logical step is to start matching some of those guys that fans have been introduced to.

Broner is positioned for the winner of Peterson/Garcia. You could now potentially put Thurman in a Berto/Porter matchup as a prelude to a potential Mayweather matchup. And so on......

It'll take time though.....

[Da Machine]

Kathy on a small as budget put together better match-ups when aired on Nbc.. She did OK on Nbc sports channel

That's just a lie all around. Lmao.

[thiefery]

They've had three cards so far. Give them time.

IMO, it looks like they are introducing their stable to new fans through competitive fights and alot of human interest stories of those fighters. The next logical step is to start matching some of those guys that fans now somewhat know.

Broner is positioned for the winner of Peterson/Garcia. You could now potentially put Thurman in a Berto/Porter matchup as a prelude to a potential Mayweather matchup. And so on......

It'll take time though.....

It's not me they need to attract, it's the casual channel surfers.. They may need to move sooner

[Barcham]

PBC would have a great chance to really put boxing in the fore front. He wouldn't even have to play nice with other promoters, if he just matched up his fighters better. That then would force other promoters to up the ante.

But the way this is playing Out, his top fighters will only fight twice a year in showcase events..

What will happen is that other promoters will freeze Haymon out. The recognized sanctioning bodies, which are world wide and not focused on the US market like Haymon and the PBC are, will stop sanctioning PBC events.

PBC is fine for those who think the world begins and ends with the US market and US fans, but unfortunately for them, it does not. Boxing is an international sport and Haymon may simply end up fragmenting the sport into the US market and the rest of the world.

And unlike some people here, I do not believe that boxing has enough fans to sustain the PBC model with the amount of money they are spending on purses. I think the audience ratings they are pulling down right now are about the best they can expect to get and while they may fluctuate up and down, you will never see 10 million people tuning in to a PBC event.

[arraamis]

I keep seeing these arguments about how he's losing so much money. Blah blah blah. He has no advitisors. Etc.

Haymon has paid for 2 plus years of network TV air time already. Whether or not you like it or whether it fails or succeeds you will be watching the majority of boxing on PBC network tv cards for the next two years.

It takes time to build a brand. I kind of like it. People are simple minded and don't want to work for WHT they watch. Haymon wants people to see PBC and think big time boxing. The best. Whether it's true or not. If people actually began to associate with boxing like that all the haters are in trouble. He will get a big network deal. He will bring in new fans. He will make a profit. And he will be here to stay.

The reason some people don't get it, is because they are too preoccupied acting like spoiled b****.

That's the era we live in ... Kids flip-out and throw tantrums because they didn't get a new iphone\ipad for Christmas and now they moms or pops are pure crap. lol!!!!

[soul_survivor]

I keep seeing these arguments about how he's losing so much money. Blah blah blah. He has no advitisors. Etc.

Haymon has paid for 2 plus years of network TV air time already. Whether or not you like it or whether it fails or succeeds you will be watching the majority of boxing on PBC network tv cards for the next two years.

It takes time to build a brand. I kind of like it. People are simple minded and don't want to work for WHT they watch. Haymon wants people to see PBC and think big time boxing. The best. Whether it's true or not. If people actually began to associate with boxing like that all the haters are in trouble. He will get a big network deal. He will bring in new fans. He will make a profit. And he will be here to stay.

my only issue, as a person in the uk who never pays for any fights any way, is this: the fight cards have been barely average so far.

now, as you say, its still early days but i highly doubt the biggest and best fights will be on network tv, boxing is primarily built on a ppv model, if broner has a big fight, its gonna be ppv (just an example).

so what is the point of the network deal? put on average fight cards so people get put off boxing? im yet to be convinced.

[Vasyl’s dad]

All this hate after 3 card is sickening. We are what. 2 months into a 24 month deal. Enjoy free boxing and quit worrying about a long term venture is profitable after 3 off 100 plus cards. Christ.

When did cable TV become free?