Comments Thread For: Froch's Promoter on Status of Andre Ward Rematch

[tgoodm10]

How do u deserve a decision when u decisively lose every round ? When u say that he failed to impose his will , what exactly do u mean ? Dirrell put on a boxing clinic , he exemplified what the "sweet science" is all about ; stick and move aka hit and don't get hit back . So when u say Dirrell didn't impose will , that's completely baseless because Dirrells will was to hit Froch without getting hit back and that's exactly what he accomplished . Froch is the one who couldn't impose his will because he wasn't able to engage Dirrell at all therefore what he willed to do was completely nullified . WTF are u talking about ?

Well said!!!

[tgoodm10]

There’s a difference between imposing yourself while not getting hit, and running. The idea is to be affectively aggressive while remaining elusive. Dirrell only achieved the latter part of that. He ran and avoided doing what was required to make sure there was no doubt about the winner.

When Ward fought Froch he did the opposite. He remained defensive without running. He imposed himself so there was no doubt about his superiority. Clearly there was a doubt about Dirrell because there has been a debate about it ever since. You won’t hear many people saying Froch got robbed against Ward because Ward’s performance was decisive unlike Dirrell’s.

Don’t worry. Keep watching, you’ll get eventually.

It was a hometown decision. That's what it boils down to.

[Mooshashi]

Yeah, but if it ends in a pursebid, the Winner of the bid decides the venue ie it's either Nottingham or Oakland.

The fight should take place in London at Wembley. Froch has already proved he can fill up that stadium ....where are the going to fight in Nottingham ...Belvoir Manor, capacity 342?

[Jim Jeffries]

So far it seems like neither Froch, Ward nor the boxing public want to see a rematch. In Nottingham or on the moon. Given that the first fight wasn't exactly competitive, that's perfectly understandable.

[SugarRaRobinson]

There’s a difference between imposing yourself while not getting hit, and running. The idea is to be affectively aggressive while remaining elusive. Dirrell only achieved the latter part of that. He ran and avoided doing what was required to make sure there was no doubt about the winner.

When Ward fought Froch he did the opposite. He remained defensive without running. He imposed himself so there was no doubt about his superiority. Clearly there was a doubt about Dirrell because there has been a debate about it ever since. You won’t hear many people saying Froch got robbed against Ward because Ward’s performance was decisive unlike Dirrell’s.

Don’t worry. Keep watching, you’ll get eventually.

"He Ran" is in this case , like most cases just a sorry excuse that's overly used when a boxing fan/critic can't appreciate a fighters boxers style . In certain fights its very relevant like Trinadad/De La Hoya or Canelo/Lara but its definitely overplayed on this site by people like yourself . I really shouldn't have to explain this to u but boxing is not rockem sockem robots . If u wanna create a sport where two fighters step into cement shoes in the middle of the ring and swing until only one is left standing , have at it . I guess that's why they created BKB , to appease people like urself who always make this lame complaint . Froch is slow , lead footed and cumbersome , therefore he can't cut the ring . As a matter of fact he has no intangibles , so all he can do is hope his opponent plants himself in front of him and slug it out in hopes that his power and chin will win out . Giving that decision to Froch is ultimately punishing Dirrell for Frochs limitations . If u switch faces on their performances , we nor anyone else would be having these conversations because everyone black , white and other would agree that Froch won by a land slide . As far as u suggesting that if I keep watching I'll eventually get it , if ur referring to ur point of view , I think I'll take a rain-check !

[New England]

i appreciate his honesty.


they're trying to rob our andre. they needn't be shy about it.

[Enzo Mc is SHIT]

When Froch fought Ward it was in Atlantic city, not his hometown of Oakland. I can't blame Ward for saying it's only fair the rematch take place in London and not Nottingham.

I think it's more than fair. UK fans travel so the O2 would pretty much be Nottingham anyway on the night.

[bojangles1987]

How do u deserve a decision when u decisively lose every round ? When u say that he failed to impose his will , what exactly do u mean ? Dirrell put on a boxing clinic , he exemplified what the "sweet science" is all about ; stick and move aka hit and don't get hit back . So when u say Dirrell didn't impose will , that's completely baseless because Dirrells will was to hit Froch without getting hit back and that's exactly what he accomplished . Froch is the one who couldn't impose his will because he wasn't able to engage Dirrell at all therefore what he willed to do was completely nullified . WTF are u talking about ?

Wait, wait, wait. Are you saying Dirrell won every round against Froch? Please tell me I'm missing something.

I thought Dirrell won, but it was most certainly not a boxing clinic in any way.

[SugarRaRobinson]

Wait, wait, wait. Are you saying Dirrell won every round against Froch? Please tell me I'm missing something.

I thought Dirrell won, but it was most certainly not a boxing clinic in any way.

How bout I just give Froch a round or two so that I can appease u and spare myself from re-watching that debacle in order to be EXACT about whether or not Froch actually won a round or two

[Wicky]

"He Ran" is in this case , like most cases just a sorry excuse that's overly used when a boxing fan/critic can't appreciate a fighters boxers style . In certain fights its very relevant like Trinadad/De La Hoya or Canelo/Lara but its definitely overplayed on this site by people like yourself . I really shouldn't have to explain this to u but boxing is not rockem sockem robots . If u wanna create a sport where two fighters step into cement shoes in the middle of the ring and swing until only one is left standing , have at it . I guess that's why they created BKB , to appease people like urself who always make this lame complaint . Froch is slow , lead footed and cumbersome , therefore he can't cut the ring . As a matter of fact he has no intangibles , so all he can do is hope his opponent plants himself in front of him and slug it out in hopes that his power and chin will win out . Giving that decision to Froch is ultimately punishing Dirrell for Frochs limitations . If u switch faces on their performances , we nor anyone else would be having these conversations because everyone black , white and other would agree that Froch won by a land slide . As far as u suggesting that if I keep watching I'll eventually get it , if ur referring to ur point of view , I think I'll take a rain-check !

"He ran" was part of a bigger appraisal. Read the rest and try to understand the points being made. Froch is admittedly very limited and I believe Dirrell, back then, could have beaten him. I just disagree that he did that night, as do most boxing fans and as did the judges.

To get a clear victory a boxer has to impose himself so there is no doubt, it doesn't matter whether his style is defensive or aggressive he has to force the other boxer to comply, as Ward did against Froch. Yes, there's a small element of home town cooking, but that's nearly always the case. If you're fighting in somebody else's country you have to be more dominant that if you're at home.

Dirrell failed to get the job done. it's that simple. If you saw a landslide victory you're in the minority.