PBC Belts are in production

[SUBZER0ED]

Yeah, those in ring sponsors bring in tons of money. Tecate is paying a humongous 5 million for the rights to the May-Pac fight. Imagine how much they would offer for a PBC event!!! They could probably get the rights for a few cases of 24.

More like Bubba's homeade swampwater ale!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

They are not getting prime slots on network television, that would be Thursday nights from 8 to 10 PM. They are getting Saturday night timeslots where nothing of value is usually scheduled. It is usually rerun night or documentary crime shows or other crap. That is hardly prime network slots.

We were comparing it to buying timeslots on minor networks compared to major networks... price tag will be different..

[Barcham]

Nothing is certain,,, there is a risk/reward...

But if major private equity firms are backing you, its a good sign that you have a great business plan...

These guys make money by funding startups like PBC.. Its their business to evaluate the ROI and Cap M pricing and see if its feasible....

There is no proof of private equity firms being involved. Nothing has been made public by anyone. For all we know, he has a bunch of rappers investing money in this or he is acting as a laundry. And PBC is hardly a 'startup'. Boxing already exists, startups generally bring something completely new to the market. Someone may want to start their own football league, like Vince McMahon once tried to do. It would not be considered a startup, but a new spin on an existing product.

And we all know how great a success the XFL was.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Yeah, those in ring sponsors bring in tons of money. Tecate is paying a humongous 5 million for the rights to the May-Pac fight. Imagine how much they would offer for a PBC event!!! They could probably get the rights for a few cases of 24.

Just stop.... your embarrassing yourself.... your lack of knowledge in big business is laughable,,, i don't know why you continue to debate a business plan that you have little understanding of..

How much money is UFC getting off their bud light deal sponsorship????

[Sugar Adam Ali]

There is no proof of private equity firms being involved. Nothing has been made public by anyone. For all we know, he has a bunch of rappers investing money in this or he is acting as a laundry. And PBC is hardly a 'startup'. Boxing already exists, startups generally bring something completely new to the market. Someone may want to start their own football league, like Vince McMahon once tried to do. It would not be considered a startup, but a new spin on an existing product.

And we all know how great a success the XFL was.

LMAO

XFL was a joint venture with no private equity involved, it was wwe and nbc funding the whole thing...

Remind me again of the major #1 organization in boxing,, what is like the NFL in boxing...

Once again, your coming up short, and just spouting off about stuff you have no idea about...

[KRITKL]

Nothing is certain,,, there is a risk/reward...

But if major private equity firms are backing you, its a good sign that you have a great business plan...

These guys make money by funding startups like PBC.. Its their business to evaluate the ROI and Cap M pricing and see if its feasible....

Fair enough.
You think it'll work, I'll wait and see and enjoy the extra boxing on tv in the meantime.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

There is no proof of private equity firms being involved. Nothing has been made public by anyone. For all we know, he has a bunch of rappers investing money in this or he is acting as a laundry. And PBC is hardly a 'startup'. Boxing already exists, startups generally bring something completely new to the market. Someone may want to start their own football league, like Vince McMahon once tried to do. It would not be considered a startup, but a new spin on an existing product.

And we all know how great a success the XFL was.

No proof of private equity..... LMAO

Google al haymon's 100 million war chest

why don't you log off and read about it..... there are numerous articles about the private equity firms involved.... but its kinda obvious reading business articles is not your thing

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Fair enough.
You think it'll work, I'll wait and see and enjoy the extra boxing on tv in the meantime.

Im not saying its 100% certain to work, but everyone that is critical of it is way off base in their criticisms....

They expect this thing to be profitable, and take over day 1 or its a failure..
it took UFC and WWE many years to achieve that level, and if Haymon plays his cards right and follows the blueprint, he should be successful...

There is a reason why the networks and sponsors are leery about boxing..
Its because its the most corrupt, unorganized sport in history, thats why haymon is trying to distance PBC from the Status quo in boxing... It has a bad reputation and he is avoiding it and trying to do his own thing and not be associated with the boxing blackeyes that have plagued the sport for years

[Barcham]

Just stop.... your embarrassing yourself.... your lack of knowledge in big business is laughable,,, i don't know why you continue to debate a business plan that you have little understanding of..

How much money is UFC getting off their bud light deal sponsorship????

How about you tell us how much money PBC is making? I don't give a damn how much others are making or have made or will make in the future. It has no bearing on the subject at hand. HOW MUCH IS PBC PULLING IN VIA SPONSORSHIP MONEY?

Comparing PBC to WWE and UFC and MLB and the NFL is pointless and irrelevant. It is an attempt to cloud the waters. This is not the first time boxing has been attempted on network television. It did not work in the past and it will not work today as a major financial success. We live in a world where parents are pulling their kids out of little league football and peewee hockey is banning body checks due to head injuries. Do you really think boxing with people getting their heads beat in will be a main stream success?

The only time boxing has ever been successful on modern television was in the days of Wide World of Sports who presented the occasional big fight. Apart from the odd super fight, boxing was almost always presented as part of an anthology sports show.

Those shows no longer exist as they have been replaced by dedicated sports television networks.

It's a niche sport, it will remain a niche sport. It will never compete with team sports on a financial basis and they do not belong in the same thread.

[Humean]

Good points,,, but roughly i think the game plan is to land a deal similar to UFC which is a little over 100 mil per year...
Haymon spends 60 mil on fighters, 25 mil on productions costs, him and investors pocket the rest.. Plus they still have ticket sales and in ring sponsors..

Private equity would not be messing with Haymon if he didn't have a great plan and a chance for big money down the road...

I agree that he needs stars, and thats why they aren't worried about between round commercials and instead focusing on highlighting upcoming fights/fighters//

The key is to get people to know the fighters, once they know the fighters, fans will have a connection..
NFL does great at this, because college football makes stars and once they hit the NFL they are know commodities i.e. tebow, manziel, etc....

the key to all sports and especially combat sports is that the audience knows the fighters/athletes
70s and 80s were huge for boxing because the olympics and free tv established guys like duran, leonard, hearns, ali, etc etc....
Haymon is trying to recreate that... It will take time, but the key is to make guys like broner, ghost, maidana, khan, thurman, porter etc into known names like duran, camacho, spinks, etc were...

The only way to do that, is to constantly bombard the casual fan, which is what PBC is doing in their first few broadcasts

I'm sure Haymon talked a good game to get his investment, he certainly must have a great talent for that in light of the purses he has been able to achieve for his fighters over recent years. We are far away from the 70s and 80s, that is one of the reasons i'm not that impressed by this move to terrestrial tv. I'm more impressed by the suggestion/rumour that Haymon might try and start his own streaming service for his fights as that sounds more in tune with the future than terrestial television. To me boxing will continue to be a niche sport, irrespective of what any promoter tries to do and that only intermittently, with a big enough star, will it generate any serious interest outside that and therefore generate big money.