Comments Thread For: Golden Boy Sues Gonzalez, Claims Haymon Collusion

[Teetotaler]

Smart move by gb

[Scipio2009]

Don't know why these people sign up with a promoter, then dishonor their contract and signature. All they have to do is accomplish the duration, then switch to another upon its completion. Did these people go to school or what?

"You owe me one last fight. I'm going to pay you pennies on the dollar for what this fight is actually worth ... unless you can give me two more fights. And then we're done. Trust me ... this is the last time this will happen".

Contracts never end unless a promoter is sloppy, especially when they involve fighters that don't speak up, even causing a bit of a stink.

[Teetotaler]

they just have to be i just dont understand lol if u have not been reading the guy has so many dates now its no longer a problem they all knew the deal and that it would be tough for this past year and trust me they dont say they like al haymon because they have to

Lol trust you? They actually can't say anything negative about haymon. In case you didn't know how the slave contract he has works

[mathed]

Except that Haymon only takes 15% from his fighters and tells them where most of the revenue streams are, while Arum/Oscar easily take double that from their fighters and (outside of Canelo) don't tell any of their fighters ****.

Please, the guy is a drug dealer only instead of drugs, he is using paydays. HE gets guys hooked with a few good paydays and easy matches so they essentially sign all of their rights away to him.

They think he is the best thing since sliced bread until he takes little by little away from them until there is nothing left except their ironclad contract from which there is no escape. This is the point in which they only wish they had taken the much more lucrative deals that they were forced to forgo because of Hymen's slave contract.

[I Hate Thugs!]

Here come the ****** thugs turned businessmen and promotional experts

[Scipio2009]

Haymon has absolutely nothing to do with May-Pac. The only people responsible for that fight being made are the fighters themselves. I have no problem giving credit where it is due, but enough with the Haymon **** riding.

As for Thurman/Guerrero, I don't know anyone who was hoping to see that matchup, not do I know anyone who thinks that Garcia-Peterson with no titles on the line is any big deal and most real fans of the sport I know are disgusted to see Quillin getting a shot at the title he so casually threw away last year without having so much as one fight since.

^^^ not sure what you're angle is, but this is ridiculous. If this isn't a parody account, I'm not sure what to make of your intelligience.

-Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr may have wanted the fight, but neither fighter was in the room when the negotiations were underway. Moonves, HBO's President, Espinoza, Hershman, HAYMON, and Arum were the parties who worked out the deal, with Floyd giving the final "ok" once all the terms were negotiated.

-Garcia vs Peterson is still a fight between two of the top three junior welterweights in the world, regardless of the actual weight.

-Quillin vs Lee is a bigger fight and a more meaningful fight that Golovkin-Monroe, Golovkin-Johnson, or Golovkin-Heiland (the three fights that are being pitched for Golovkin) and that's without much argument. Beyond that, Quillin is still a top 3 fighter in the division, regardless of how you feel.

[Scipio2009]

LEGALLY they are supposed to have an accurate accounting. That's what the Ali Act stipulates. If they're NOT getting it, then that's an issue his management has a legal remedy for.

I think it's pretty clear that Haymon's business model flies in the face of the spirit and intent of the Ali Act. Whether or not any government entity ever actually does anything about it is another matter.

why? Alvarez is a foreign national and Pacquiao is a foreign national who fought the fight in question in a foreign country. The issues with Pacquiao receiving proper accounting disclosures for prior fight doesn't make questioning what he actually knew about the Macau money odd in the least.

Beyond that, the question wasn't meant to be a legal discussion. Knowing what you know or have read about Arum/Pacquiao and Alvarez/Oscar, do you honestly believe that Top Rank made a full disclosure to Pacquiao or that Golden Boy made a full disclosure to Canelo?

[Scipio2009]

Please, the guy is a drug dealer only instead of drugs, he is using paydays. HE gets guys hooked with a few good paydays and easy matches so they essentially sign all of their rights away to him.

They think he is the best thing since sliced bread until he takes little by little away from them until there is nothing left except their ironclad contract from which there is no escape. This is the point in which they only wish they had taken the much more lucrative deals that they were forced to forgo because of Hymen's slave contract.

A Harvard-educated man, having built a concert promoting enterprise that has easily paid him out a ton of money (where he still has a massive equity stake) and is upstanding enough to have corporate partners trust him and be happy to do business with him (investors, TV companies, venues, etc), is of course the guy who's supposed to be akin to a drug dealer.

moving on.

[SugarRaRobinson]

Please, the guy is a drug dealer only instead of drugs, he is using paydays. HE gets guys hooked with a few good paydays and easy matches so they essentially sign all of their rights away to him.

They think he is the best thing since sliced bread until he takes little by little away from them until there is nothing left except their ironclad contract from which there is no escape. This is the point in which they only wish they had taken the much more lucrative deals that they were forced to forgo because of Hymen's slave contract.

Lmao ! I see Al Haymon's name on here just as much if not more than I hear fighters names on here . This racial hate is stronger than the Jedi force , lol . If they hate Haymon , then there's usually some silly excuse why they hate Ward , Mayweather , Wilder , ect ect . Mayweather is too arrogant , Ward's boring , Haymon's making bad fights , Wilder has too many tats , blah blah blah . U racist haters r like the " emperors new cloths" ! Why can't u figure out that EVERYONE sees that u have on no clothes ?

[SugarRaRobinson]

A Harvard-educated man, having built a concert promoting enterprise that has easily paid him out a ton of money (where he still has a massive equity stake) and is upstanding enough to have corporate partners trust him and be happy to do business with him (investors, TV companies, venues, etc), is of course the guy who's supposed to be akin to a drug dealer.

moving on.

Get em scipio