Comments Thread For: WBC Officially Orders Stevenson-Kovalev Title Fight

[taste]

... so what's your answer?

In case you missed it, Stevenson-Kovalev, if it were to go to a purse bid, has a 50/50 split written into the terms.

If Kovalev fights his mandatory, and then walks away from this massive unification fight (WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO/Ring) with Stevenson over money, would you slander Kovalev the way Stevenson was slandered, for walking away over money?

You add that his only viable opponents beyond the mandatory are Brahmer and Chilemba, and you can't say that he was able to secure a bigger opportunity by not taking the 50/50 to fight Stevenson; at least Stevenson, at the time, had Hopkins as a possible fight.

what would you say about Kovalev? nothing, since you're a hypocrite.

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[MDPopescu]

As with Cotto, if Stevenson vacates or is stripped by the WBC for ducking his mandatory, the Ring will strip him of their title too.

No doubt he would still call himself "lineal champ" if that happened. But as the Ring title and the lineal title are the same thing nowadays, it would be a hollow claim.

Nope... You'll find, hereunder, the seven situations in which a Ring champion can lose his Ring belt:
The Champion loses a fight in the weight class in which he is champion.
The Champion moves to another weight class.
The Champion does not schedule a fight in any weight class for 18 months.
The Champion does not schedule a fight at his championship weight for 18 months (even if he fights at another weight).
The Champion does not schedule a fight with a Top-5 contender from any weight class for two years.
The Champion retires.
The Champion tests positive for a banned substance.

[MDPopescu]

Wouldn't surprise me if Adonis pulls a Rid**** Bowe and throws his belt in the garbage.

^^^... The Impact of Highly Probable...

[bojangles1987]

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Might as well put that popcorn away. I answered that ****** question in like 3 or 4 straight posts and just because they keep asking it doesn't mean I didn't answer it. So I'm not bothering with these idiots anymore. I don't know why I bothered to begin with.

And anyone who has ever actually paid attention to my posts knows I don't play that fanboy bull****.

[taste]

... so what's your answer?

In case you missed it, Stevenson-Kovalev, if it were to go to a purse bid, has a 50/50 split written into the terms.

If Kovalev fights his mandatory, and then walks away from this massive unification fight (WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO/Ring) with Stevenson over money, would you slander Kovalev the way Stevenson was slandered, for walking away over money?

You add that his only viable opponents beyond the mandatory are Brahmer and Chilemba, and you can't say that he was able to secure a bigger opportunity by not taking the 50/50 to fight Stevenson; at least Stevenson, at the time, had Hopkins as a possible fight.

what would you say about Kovalev? nothing, since you're a hypocrite.

Might as well put that popcorn away. I answered that ****** question in like 3 or 4 straight posts and just because they keep asking it doesn't mean I didn't answer it. So I'm not bothering with these idiots anymore. I don't know why I bothered to begin with.

And anyone who has ever actually paid attention to my posts knows I don't play that fanboy bull****.

It's been fun to watch, but yea, I don't get. You've been pretty straight forward so far. It seems like the word 'duck' inherits new meanings to suit one's argument.

[Weebler I]

Let's see who ducks who if duva wins I doubt haymon lets Stevenson fight on HBO and if haymon wins I doubt duva or HBO let Sergey fight on a PBC show

It's Kovalev we're talking about. If the fight doesn't get made it'll be because Kovalev's not allowed to fight.

I can guarantee you Duva will play hardball and generate two dozen "Kovalev is a duck" threads. But ultimately Kovalev is the mandatory and will never give up that spot. So the fight will get made unless Stevenson vacates.

What happens if there's a network dispute?

Maybe GYM wanted to make sure that Haymon didn't stick his oar in and swerve Stevenson away from Kovalev again.

No, GYM said the other day they prefer all their fighters were signed to Haymon. Michel wants Beterbiev signed with Haymon but they still haven't signed.

Either make a deal with Haymon for a PBC main event, or sign with HBO and ruin any chance this fight has of coming to fruition.

I doubt HBO will let them do that.

To be honest, it's not really that great of a fight anymore, it ends early. It's just about getting the belt off the pretend champion who insists on fighting the Sukhotskys and Bikas of the world.

Neither needs their belts at this point.

Kovalev needs all the belts to force everyone in the division to come through him.

[kafkod]

Nope... You'll find, hereunder, the seven situations in which a Ring champion can lose his Ring belt:
The Champion loses a fight in the weight class in which he is champion.
The Champion moves to another weight class.
The Champion does not schedule a fight in any weight class for 18 months.
The Champion does not schedule a fight at his championship weight for 18 months (even if he fights at another weight).
The Champion does not schedule a fight with a Top-5 contender from any weight class for two years.
The Champion retires.
The Champion tests positive for a banned substance.

I checked up and you are correct about this.

I misunderstood the the Ring's new policy - that if No.1 and No.2 refuse to each other and either beats 3, 4, or 5, the winner of that fight becomes champ.

I thought No.1 referred to the champ, but the new policy applies to vacant titles only.

So the Ring champ can duck the top contenders and remain champ for ever, it seems. All he needs to do is fight anybody at all, and he keeps his title.

I repeat what I have said in other posts here - the Ring/lineal titles are worthless and bad for the sport.

[Weebler I]

I checked up and you are correct about this.

I misunderstood the the Ring's new policy - that if No.1 and No.2 refuse to each other and either beats 3, 4, or 5, the winner of that fight becomes champ.

I thought No.1 referred to the champ, but the new policy applies to vacant titles only.

So the Ring champ can duck the top contenders and remain champ for ever, it seems. All he needs to do is fight anybody at all, and he keeps his title.

I repeat what I have said in other posts here - the Ring/lineal titles are worthless and bad for the sport.

and only has to fight once every 18 months, when it comes to the "ring belt" it's really not worth mentioning alongside sanctioning belts.

Stevenson goes on about his Ring belt, but the WBC belt is the one that keeps him relevant.

[kafkod]

and only has to fight once every 18 months, when it comes to the "ring belt" it's really not worth mentioning alongside sanctioning belts.

Stevenson goes on about his Ring belt, but the WBC belt is the one that keeps him relevant.

Yes, with boxing fans like us. But as Popescu implied, Haymon's PDC shows are going to be watched by people who DKSAB.

[bojangles1987]

What happens if there's a network dispute?


Kovalev needs all the belts to force everyone in the division to come through him.

I'd assume the purse bid settles that unless one side walks away. Whoever wins it controls all that. That's ultimately what it comes down to now. Kovalev is the mandatory, so either he will have to give up his mandatory status or Superduck has to give up his belt.

And the belts 100% matter, you're right on that. Besides, we could have an undisputed champion at LHW. The only one in the sport. Undisputed champions don't even seem possible anymore but we could have one now.