Apparently HBO won't host Cotto's next fight unless Canelo is guaranteed next.

[The Big Dunn]

His actions also support my theory. And again...A Floyd fight wasn't guaranteed to be more lucrative than a fight with Alvarez... Probably even a lesser chance as he got a BIGGER purse guarantee offer to face Alvarez.

Maybe so. The ppv take would surely be much higher, which adds on top of the guarantee.

I understood why Cotto was waiting. Canelo had an agenda for that date and Cotto didn't want to be part of that ridiculousness.

[bojangles1987]

They could have had 11 deadlines, Cotto wasn't taking that fight. His own manager stated that Cotto wasn't happy with the financial terms for the fight despite Cotto being offered $10.5mil.

Cotto's problem is that he thinks he's a MUCH bigger star than Canelo when in reality he's not. Remember, A-side is the one who generates the $$$. Does Cotto generate more than Canelo at this point in their careers? I don't think he does. Both have similar ppv #'s when they are the a-side and Canelo outsold Cotto by 1mil ppv buys when they both fought Floyd.

Cotto is clearly a bigger star than Alvarez. He's one of maybe 4 fighters who can command the kind of money he does. Alvarez sure as hell doesn't command the same money.

[icha]

My point seems to be missed.

The gesture/stetment on HBO's part helps Canelo get what he wanted-a fight with Cotto not in MSG. If cotto leaves, fine. Its just the lengths HBO went to for Canelo and not GGG.

If I'm GGG, it would've been nice to see HBO make this gesture on my behalf as it gets GGG a high profile ppv fight for the MW title.

I doubt cotto changes his stance and says that Bojangles. It's also hard to think HBO would then choose a smaller money fight.

i get your point, but i think that ggg him self doesnt expect to be favored on anything over canelo...

[The Big Dunn]

i get your point, but i think that ggg him self doesnt expect to be favored on anything over canelo...

GGG isn't really Mexican so my guess is he don't give a flying f-ck about Canelo. LOL

[Strategic1]

Maybe so. The ppv take would surely be much higher, which adds on top of the guarantee.

I understood why Cotto was waiting. Canelo had an agenda for that date and Cotto didn't want to be part of that ridiculousness.

I'm not so sure about PPV take.
A Cotto-Canelo fight would outsell anything that's not Floyd-PAC.

Cotto-Canelo is a 1 million+ PPV fight

[Strategic1]

Just to add...
If Floyd-Cotto was made and Floyd-PAC fell through,...there would've been a HUGE backlash against Floyd and that would have definitely affected the PPV.

So definitely Cotto-Canelo would have outsold Floyd-Cotto.

[The Big Dunn]

I'm not so sure about PPV take.
A Cotto-Canelo fight would outsell anything that's not Floyd-PAC.

Cotto-Canelo is a 1 million+ PPV fight

Just to add...
If Floyd-Cotto was made and Floyd-PAC fell through,...there would've been a HUGE backlash against Floyd and that would have definitely affected the PPV.

So definitely Cotto-Canelo would have outsold Floyd-Cotto.

Totally disagree. I get the Mexican v PR rivalry and these are the 3rd and 4th most popular fighters. Cotto/Sergio was a huge disappointment according to Arum. They expected cotto to do more with this fight. Look at Canelo's numbers since the Floyd fight. His terrible performance has not engaged many casual fans.

I'd say 650-750k, which is tremendous.

There may have been fallout from no Floyd/Manny. But if the ppv drop off was 50% that's still 750k. I doubt it would have been that much of a drop.

[Beater_of_ass]

Please HBO... you guys aren't the boss anymore, seriously. You're telling me if Cotto fights TBA in June and then negotiations for a Canelo match get done HBO isn't going to do it because he didn't fight on HBO in June? Please, another bluff that Cotto will wipe his ass with like he always does.

[bojangles1987]

Just to add...
If Floyd-Cotto was made and Floyd-PAC fell through,...there would've been a HUGE backlash against Floyd and that would have definitely affected the PPV.

So definitely Cotto-Canelo would have outsold Floyd-Cotto.

LOL, no chance. You can pretend that's true if you want, but Mayweather/Cotto 2 would have easily sold more than Cotto/Alvarez.

[Strategic1]

Totally disagree. I get the Mexican v PR rivalry and these are the 3rd and 4th most popular fighters. Cotto/Sergio was a huge disappointment according to Arum. They expected cotto to do more with this fight. Look at Canelo's numbers since the Floyd fight. His terrible performance has not engaged many casual fans.

I'd say 650-750k, which is tremendous.

There may have been fallout from no Floyd/Manny. But if the ppv drop off was 50% that's still 750k. I doubt it would have been that much of a drop.

So then I guess we can both agree that Floyd-Cotto wasn't clearly more lucrative compared to a proposed Cotto-Canelo bout.

In fact, the purse guarantee may be the difference here. There was a good chance Cotto-Canelo and Floyd-Cotto would have pulled similar numbers.

Floyd-Cotto would not have pulled any higher than Floyd-Maidana's 800k-900k especially if there was some backlash.