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  • Rath
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    #111
    Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
    You're trying to troll wrong person bro I won't fall for your banter can go try that on another person
    the contract was already signed right?

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    • Rath
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      #112
      Originally posted by elishua F
      vada? you mean the guys that didn't test manny vs Rios?

      but answer my questions. .

      what happened to mannys fear of needles?
      is he still weakened by giving blood ?
      i have mentioned five and you choose only VADA to reply and add needles

      it was arum who is afraid of the needle so test arum.

      about weakening Pac now drinks multi vitamins with zinc and iron plus manganese and lead and mercury and the whole she**** he on ped right?

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      • iniduoh
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        #113
        Originally posted by Fetta
        We know...well the ones with reading comprehension skills
        Exactly, I tell you, some of the posters here are complete morons. To read an article and still make these kinds of comments is sad to say the least.

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        • Scipio2009
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          #114
          lol

          Team Pacquiao tried to pull a stunt, knocking a zero off of the potential penalty for failing a test ($50m down to $5m), and the stunt flopped hard.

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          • Scipio2009
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            #115
            Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS
            has there ever been a four year ban in the US?
            Not that I can think of; I've seen multiple year bans, for track athletes and stuff, but that was after repeated failed test. This is basically a 'anyone screw this up and you'll never fight again in the US again' type of penalty.

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            • Scipio2009
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              #116
              Originally posted by El-blanco
              I don't get who's enforcing this ban?
              You have to be sanctioned by an athletic commission to fight professionally, in most cases; the different state commissions control that in the US, in Britain the British Boxing Board of Control (BBBoC) controls that for the entire country.

              In the US, my guess of things is that if you're barred from fighting by one commission, the other state commissions also respect that barring. The USADA effort is seemingly backed by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), giving a possible ban effectiveness in California, New York, Texas, or any other US commission.

              Doubt that the ban would be enforceable internationally, but I'm not so sure that the BBBoC or some other national commission would issue a formal license to a fighter who has been known to have had PEDs in their system, especially in the immediate aftermath of the sport's biggest fight falling apart over said failed test.

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              • Scipio2009
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                #117
                Originally posted by ThePrince
                USADA has no power or jurisdiction in Boxing. Notice how they have to run to the commission to even mete out any punishment. Should've just done VADA instead.
                lol. Now VADA has some power or jurisdiction in Boxing?

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                • Street
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Thutch2412
                  Im confused, my comphrehension is that Mannys side wanted ONLY a 5 mil penalty for a positive test. Mayweathers side didnt want to sign because they can sue for more than 5 mil and vice versa. Not sure who asked for a 4 yr ban but since they are never handed out maybe that was an agreement Koncz didnt advise Manny on.

                  regardless Floyd not signing for a 5 mil penalty if he is doping makes zero sense. Id rather pay 5 mil than 50 mil with a possible ban, and these rules apply to both fighters, so......

                  A. 5 mil penalty for a positive test
                  B. Undisclosed penalty amount which could be tens of millions, and a 4 year ban

                  Yep, not taking option A means ur the dirtiest guy in the sport


                  That is what I got from it too. Seems that Pac is eager to juice, beat Mayweather, and pay 5 mil as a penalty. It is worth it IMO. The Glory to be the only man to have beat Mayweather. TMT is not having it, they will not sign to what appears a lesser penalty. They are going forward with what is in the fight contract, a more severe penalty to the one that tests positive. Either this is a publicity stunt from the Pacquiao camp, or they simply want to PED and receive a slap in the wrist. They should be ashamed.

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                  • JJRod
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Rath
                    well if you are asking for the test technician not to test and have them wait for 5 hours plus, then it is not really random, is it?

                    and if USADA stop testing 18 days before the fight *Mosley vs Floyd) then it is no longer till the day of the fight is it?
                    You're useless and obviously being a troll.

                    The fact they stop testing 18 days before the fight doesn't mean it wasn't random. It's not as if they told Mosley, hey this is the last time we're going to test you. The possibility of them being able to come at any time up to the fight date makes it random.
                    Last edited by JJRod; 03-20-2015, 10:33 PM.

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                    • Scipio2009
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by mathed
                      They each have a certain guarantee......use their guarantees to come up with a flat penalty then. They are acting all shady about this deal, sounds like people want to leave the details vague to bend the rules when needed to me. I mean if papers were signed, the rules are right in front of both parties.
                      why come up with a flat penalty when, if someone were to fail a test, the party that didn't fail the test could pretty easily go into a civil courtroom and flatly state 'I've signed a contract that was to guarantee me [x] amount of dollars, with a potential upside of [y] dollars and my opponent's failed test has cost me an opportunity to earn my livelihood. I was well into my camp when the failed test occurred, and I am here to seek monetary damages commensurate with the money that was to be owed to me'.

                      the contract was hammered out, with every clause and term hashed out over a good amount of time; let the lawyers do their job if the contingency ever comes up.

                      that's why you have a contract

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