Comments Thread For: Hearn on Ward: Froch Dictates Everything in This Fight!

[HeroBando]

By stating that fighting in Nottingham is an 'Advantage'.......he's essentially explaining why Ward would be CRAZY to go there and fight him particularly after what happended to Kessler. Not saying Kessler clearly one by any means, but it was close and I do believe the homefield advantage helped. They need to settle their 1-1 gig too......

But unless he gets paid substantially more than he would otherwise, Ward is not going to England. And Vegas would draw.......everyone says 'Ward doesn't draw'........well, consider the oppostion. As impressive as the win vs Dawson was, who really likes to watch Dawson fight?

Ward may present 'ugly fights', but they are very gritty. He is using the same people Floyd used before Haymon and now has Roc Nation fully invested. He's very similar to B-Hop, who was never an exciting fighter or a real PPV draw.........but a fight with Froch in Vegas would surprise IMHO.....Froch will draw anywhere. And the people that would turn into watch this fight know Ward is likely the best fighter out there and would still be #2 by a shot if not for the inactivity.

Eventually, that P4P #1 will draw and compared to the last 8-10 years of the consensus essentially being Mayweather, his demeanor and class will be a breath of fresh air. I say that conceding Mayweather has been an absolute genius at self-promotion. But to be real, most people are sick of it.......

It takes two guys to draw. If your Carl Froch and fighting a B-Level opponent, it's not going to be as hot as facing the P4P heir apparent. Which Ward clearly is.

I think Froch is the one less likely to take the fight and I don't blame him. He's got two fights, Chavez Jr. and GGG that could net him substantially and be a good retirement plan. And while GGG is the most avoided fighter at MW, he has admitted he's not quite ready for Ward......and I respect that. But utlimately Ward-GGG is the fight of the future.

Neither guy stands to gain much of anything by taking this fight. Maybe Ward gets vaulted back into top 5 P4P with a win........but ultimately, the fight will pretty much look the same as it did in AC. The crowd won't be so raucous by the 5th-6th round.

Ward will do what he has to do at 168 while he waits for GGG to get ready, and Ward is the ONLY fighter I would pick against GGG today. And probably the only fighter I'd pick against Kovalev as well.

There is plenty down the road for Ward. Plenty. But he's going to have to make concessions as it relates to splits, even though the Lineal Champion should always get at least 60-40.........

If it goes to a Purse Bid as indicated and they are forced to fight, based on Ward as being the face of their promotion and what they did to Roc Nation will take the bid as they did for Quillen-Korobov, and the $2 mil they put up for that fight when neither was their fighter? I think they'll secure the winning bid and team with maybe MSG, Barclays or even the MGM to bring it to the US.....just my opinon. I don't see anyone in Britain outbidding them.....

Disagree. Ward vs Froch is a mediocre draw in the US, decent in Oakland. Its not an Hbo ppv and is beyond Hbos regular budget. So unless Roc is willing to lose major money, not doable in the Us. In the Uk its a stadium fight, and Uk ppv.

[FrankieBruno]

While it's potentially true, this isn't really the way to go about making a fight with someone.

hern is a wank stain always puts his foot in it and then starts to backtrack

swiss tony of boxing, nobody likes him, they think he is a slimy git

[kafkod]

"They talk about Andre Ward, I don't want to fight Andre Ward. He will probably beat me on points"

lol I wish he just kept mouth zipped. Pretty admirable of him to admit but he put himself in a messed up position.

Why? Letting everybody know he doesn't really want to fight Ward actually strengthens Froch's position in a situation like this. And if it does end up happening he's going to look like the ultimate warrior, stepping up to the plate against a man he doesn't think he can beat in his final fight.

[kafkod]

By stating that fighting in Nottingham is an 'Advantage'.......he's essentially explaining why Ward would be CRAZY to go there and fight him particularly after what happended to Kessler. Not saying Kessler clearly one by any means, but it was close and I do believe the homefield advantage helped. They need to settle their 1-1 gig too......

But unless he gets paid substantially more than he would otherwise, Ward is not going to England. And Vegas would draw.......everyone says 'Ward doesn't draw'........well, consider the oppostion. As impressive as the win vs Dawson was, who really likes to watch Dawson fight?

Ward may present 'ugly fights', but they are very gritty. He is using the same people Floyd used before Haymon and now has Roc Nation fully invested. He's very similar to B-Hop, who was never an exciting fighter or a real PPV draw.........but a fight with Froch in Vegas would surprise IMHO.....Froch will draw anywhere. And the people that would turn into watch this fight know Ward is likely the best fighter out there and would still be #2 by a shot if not for the inactivity.

Eventually, that P4P #1 will draw and compared to the last 8-10 years of the consensus essentially being Mayweather, his demeanor and class will be a breath of fresh air. I say that conceding Mayweather has been an absolute genius at self-promotion. But to be real, most people are sick of it.......

It takes two guys to draw. If your Carl Froch and fighting a B-Level opponent, it's not going to be as hot as facing the P4P heir apparent. Which Ward clearly is.

I think Froch is the one less likely to take the fight and I don't blame him. He's got two fights, Chavez Jr. and GGG that could net him substantially and be a good retirement plan. And while GGG is the most avoided fighter at MW, he has admitted he's not quite ready for Ward......and I respect that. But utlimately Ward-GGG is the fight of the future.

Neither guy stands to gain much of anything by taking this fight. Maybe Ward gets vaulted back into top 5 P4P with a win........but ultimately, the fight will pretty much look the same as it did in AC. The crowd won't be so raucous by the 5th-6th round.

Ward will do what he has to do at 168 while he waits for GGG to get ready, and Ward is the ONLY fighter I would pick against GGG today. And probably the only fighter I'd pick against Kovalev as well.

There is plenty down the road for Ward. Plenty. But he's going to have to make concessions as it relates to splits, even though the Lineal Champion should always get at least 60-40.........

If it goes to a Purse Bid as indicated and they are forced to fight, based on Ward as being the face of their promotion and what they did to Roc Nation will take the bid as they did for Quillen-Korobov, and the $2 mil they put up for that fight when neither was their fighter? I think they'll secure the winning bid and team with maybe MSG, Barclays or even the MGM to bring it to the US.....just my opinon. I don't see anyone in Britain outbidding them.....

Roc can only outbid Hearn for this fight if they are prepared to lose a massive amount of money. And Froch has said clearly that he won't fight Ward in the States again, so what would be the point of them even trying?

[jmrf4435]

Hearn is exactly right. YOU are an idiot if you think otherwise, ward made himself irrelevant.

[LacedUp]

While I disagree with the notion that this would somehow be a 'ducking' situation by Ward, I do think you have a point in that to get the biggest audience, England is the place.

But for Roc Nation, who seems to be willing to burn a bit of cash to get on the map, I think they'd be willing to spend a bit to make their guy happy and if HBO is smart, they'll promote the schist out of this fight..........Roc Nation now has two of their best draws under contract..........

But if they don't and the fight is indeed ordered, were I Ward, I'd make it clear I'm doing this one time and one time only and ONLY to answer the questions of whether I've still got it and can beat the second best fighter in my division easily again.

After that, any fight at 168, he has to have the bigger say as being the legit SMW Champion, whether is challenger draws better or not.........once he beats Golovkin, EVERYONE will know Ward. And he'll do fine.....

I didn't say he would duck if the fight doesn't happen. Ward is confident of beating anyone, home or away. that's my belief, but he needs to do it. I don't think anyone can make a sensible argument that Ward is 'ducking' Froch at all. And neither will I. But he would be a ****** man not to go to UK.

But Ward is not really a draw. His last fight drew well on HBO, but pretty much all of his other fights have stunk the place out which is why he's never made top $$. he wants the top dollar but he must realize that people don't care about him. He doesn't have a fan friendly style or personality. He's just the epitome of boring.

Even if he was to beat Froch again, he'd still not be able to command big purses. not THAT big anyway, unless Roc Nation really want to push him. HBO still wouldn't make him a massive draw. But there are two paydays out there for Ward right now - Froch in the UK on PPV on Sky or Golovkin in 6-12 months on HBO PPV in Vegas.

Or maybe Chavez Jr if he can get it.

[LacedUp]

Roc can only outbid Hearn for this fight if they are prepared to lose a massive amount of money. And Froch has said clearly that he won't fight Ward in the States again, so what would be the point of them even trying?

True.

Froch is not going to the US to fight Ward. It's simply not happening. Also, Roc Nation would have to come up with a ridiculously high bid in order to win. if they lose the purse bid, everything is out of their hands and Ward would have ZERO say in anything.

At the same time, there's no way Froch is accepting 25% of a purse he is bringing to the table. Just not going to happen. He made more in his last fight than Ward made his entire career x 3. So what's the point?

[Mike Haynes]

I'm with Froch.....I'd starve Andre Ward's ass out. I wouldn't let him feed his family on my name if I were Froch. Let Ward fight some no name in Oakland and stay broke.

[Pain~Lucy]

Ward is a nobody, his fans are already hoping for a million doallar periban fight

[Jubei]

Froch and Hearn are 100% right. That fight isnt a PPV fight in the states, but it will be in the UK and probably fill a stadium. Ward doesnt draw at all, especially after his long layoff, Froch is the money man and he will dictate it. Ward can make a lot of money if he travels, and for him to be considered p4p again he really needs to show that he can win a fight without his homerefs.