Hard to say since the best aren't fighting the best.
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Haha great post, that part killed me. He always needs something to complain about and this is just ******. He wants him to fight jacobs who has done or beaten who exactly? Not to mention he got smoked by pirog.Atlas is a moron on so many levels. Jacobs and Quillin? Does he literally not follow boxing? How can someone like him not understand Golovkin has a contract with HBO and Jacobs and Quillin are with Haymon and will be in the PBC series on NBC/Spike? I'd favor Murray over Jacobs and it would be a pick 'em with Quillin.
He won't watch GGG again until he fights these guys who can't fight GGG even if they want to, but he'll watch Jacobs and Quillin who are fighting lessor opponents than GGG lol. I'm not a fan of Friday Night Fights ending, but if Haymon replaces Atlas at least we have that to look forward too. Guy is a clown, talked the entire round, scores the round even though he clearly isn't paying attention, then screams robbery in a close fight that he wasn't even paying attention to half the time as if his card is the only right card lol. Can't stand this guy.Comment
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Weak are u kidding me? U kids r fking lost. One of the best divisions atm with lots of talent and good fighters its pretty stacked but these ****** motherfking fighters dont want to fking fight each other. All fighting ****ing bums and people they know they will beat and not EACH OTHER. Its pathetic. And idgaf ggg certainly does not get a pass atlas is right 100%. Wants to fight everyone who cant crack an egg and then when confronted about it says "well i want cotto." Ok, so now u want to fight someone who is barely a 154pounder and looking for big names and big paydays and you are clearly not a BIG name or BIG payday. But hes the lineal champ and u want him ok understandable but atm hes not interested so what should u do? Go fking call out real middleweights over and over like ur doing with cotto, get big wins get ur name up and he'll have to fight you. Stop hiding behind "well cotto wont fight me" motherfker get his name/d*ck out ur mouth and start calling other names. Well **** they wont fight you either u claim? Well you have ward calling you out and you have previously said you'd be willing to fight at 168 for a big fight but then u go "uhhh maybe in 2016 i feel good at 160 still". Ok but 2 months ago u were ready to fight chavez at 168 and froch, but when it comes to ward "maybe next year xD xD xD". Get the **** out of here. Quillin you too go fight somebody although hes fighting lee thats a good fighter probably better than anyone ggg ever fought then he has to fight saunders immediately after so hes finally stepping up it looks like. Ggg go call out lara canelo vanes lemieux the charlos bhop at 168 man theres alot of names out there dont give me bs. And quillin same for you, after the mandatory don't go out and spew horse****. Go out to unify and prove whos the best in your weight class. Pce.
EDIT: i apolagize in advance to anyone who takes offense to this post as im coming off pretty hostile but i'm just tired of this **** honestly.Last edited by lolpz; 02-28-2015, 02:32 AM.Comment
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It was weird because those guys don't want him so you can't blame Golovkin. The division isn't really good or bad. It's just mediocre like most of the divisions most of the time are.Comment
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Atlas has always favored Americans over outsiders when it comes down to it. When Euro fighters beat Americans on FNF, it's not because they're a better boxing talent, but because they have more experience - all things equal and the American is tops in Teddy's goofball eyes, which is why he's favoring Quillin and Jacobs over GGG. He hates the Klitschkos so bad that he actually paired with Povetkin for a while, hoping together they could defeat Wlad. Dude is a laughing stock.Comment
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In 2012, when GGG made his HBO debut, general consensus of the fans and boxing analysts was that middleweight is one of the most stacked up and competitive division in all of boxing. Martinez, Sturm, Geale, Pirog, Quillin, Lee, Macklin, Barker, Murray and NDam. Any combination would've make for intriguing match-up. GGG was unknown, and describing his best wins was something along the line "he beat Bute and Lee in the amateurs".
Than the era of GGG started. He divided the whole division on duckers and good boys with no exception. Now it looks like one of the weakest division in the sport.Comment
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His point was really ruined by mentioning Quacklin and Jacobs. If he had only said he wants to see Golovkin move up and fight "****" and Ward, I wouldn't have a problem.Comment
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Why do people always say this ****** ****? What do you think Golovkin has been doing for the past 3 years? He has been storming through the MW top 10 and has always fought the best MW available and willing. He sure as hell hasn't been calling out junior middleweights. He is now positioned as the second biggest name in the division behind Cotto and is Cotto's mandatory. He literally has already done exactly what you are saying he should do.Weak are u kidding me? U kids r fking lost. One of the best divisions atm with lots of talent and good fighters its pretty stacked but these ****** motherfking fighters dont want to fking fight each other. All fighting ****ing bums and people they know they will beat and not EACH OTHER. Its pathetic. And idgaf ggg certainly does not get a pass atlas is right 100%. Wants to fight everyone who cant crack an egg and then when confronted about it says "well i want cotto." Ok, so now u want to fight someone who is barely a 154pounder and looking for big names and big paydays and you are clearly not a BIG name or BIG payday. But hes the lineal champ and u want him ok understandable but atm hes not interested so what should u do? Go fking call out real middleweights over and over like ur doing with cotto, get big wins get ur name up and he'll have to fight you. Stop hiding behind "well cotto wont fight me" motherfker get his name/d*ck out ur mouth and start calling other names. Well **** they wont fight you either u claim? Well you have ward calling you out and you have previously said you'd be willing to fight at 168 for a big fight but then u go "uhhh maybe in 2016 i feel good at 160 still". Ok but 2 months ago u were ready to fight chavez at 168 and froch, but when it comes to ward "maybe next year xD xD xD". Get the **** out of here. Quillin you too go fight somebody although hes fighting lee thats a good fighter probably better than anyone ggg ever fought then he has to fight saunders immediately after so hes finally stepping up it looks like. Ggg go call out lara canelo vanes lemieux the charlos bhop at 168 man theres alot of names out there dont give me bs. And quillin same for you, after the mandatory don't go out and spew horse****. Go out to unify and prove whos the best in your weight class. Pce.
EDIT: i apolagize in advance to anyone who takes offense to this post as im coming off pretty hostile but i'm just tired of this **** honestly.
Then you go and say "call out Lara, Canelo, Vanes, the Charlos..." who are all junior middleweights. I mean, really, Vanes and the Charlos? WTF are you bringing them up for? Golovkin's team have expressed plenty of willingness to fight Lara and Alvarez. When Lara called Golovkin out, Golovkin's people went to HBO about it. And when Cotto/Alvarez was still a possibility, they were happy to talk about fighting him.
Seriously, this post reads like you're grasping for reasons to hate on Golovkin and can't make up your mind which approach to take to do so.Comment
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So much wrong with this post.Weak are u kidding me? U kids r fking lost. One of the best divisions atm with lots of talent and good fighters its pretty stacked but these ****** motherfking fighters dont want to fking fight each other. All fighting ****ing bums and people they know they will beat and not EACH OTHER. Its pathetic. And idgaf ggg certainly does not get a pass atlas is right 100%. Wants to fight everyone who cant crack an egg and then when confronted about it says "well i want cotto." Ok, so now u want to fight someone who is barely a 154pounder and looking for big names and big paydays and you are clearly not a BIG name or BIG payday. But hes the lineal champ and u want him ok understandable but atm hes not interested so what should u do? Go fking call out real middleweights over and over like ur doing with cotto, get big wins get ur name up and he'll have to fight you. Stop hiding behind "well cotto wont fight me" motherfker get his name/d*ck out ur mouth and start calling other names. Well **** they wont fight you either u claim? Well you have ward calling you out and you have previously said you'd be willing to fight at 168 for a big fight but then u go "uhhh maybe in 2016 i feel good at 160 still". Ok but 2 months ago u were ready to fight chavez at 168 and froch, but when it comes to ward "maybe next year xD xD xD". Get the **** out of here. Quillin you too go fight somebody although hes fighting lee thats a good fighter probably better than anyone ggg ever fought then he has to fight saunders immediately after so hes finally stepping up it looks like. Ggg go call out lara canelo vanes lemieux the charlos bhop at 168 man theres alot of names out there dont give me bs. And quillin same for you, after the mandatory don't go out and spew horse****. Go out to unify and prove whos the best in your weight class. Pce.
EDIT: i apolagize in advance to anyone who takes offense to this post as im coming off pretty hostile but i'm just tired of this **** honestly.
First off, Murray was a top middleweight. Obviously ranked top 10. He wants Cotto so what? He's the lineal champ and a big money fight why wouldn't he? He's called out Canelo. He's called out Quillin. He's called out Lemieux. These guys didn't step up. He was scheduled to fight Andy Lee and everyone was bashing Golovkin for it, but his father died. Ward has never offered to fight Golovkin. He hasn't fought in well over a year and is looking to have a tune up in June or July. Froch isn't fighting anyone (dropped his belt only wants Chavez). Ndam pulled out of two purse bids when he was ordered to fight GGG. What can he do? He can't fight Ward. He can't fight Quillin. Chavez already pulled out last year. All he can do is fight the best fighters available to him and that's what he's doing. Lara? Ok if Al Haymon let's him fight in HBO which he won't ot could happen. Tom Loeffer said Lara can get a shot, it's up to Haymon.
Get cottos **** out of his mouth? Lol how about Cotto drops his belt if he doesn't want to defend his lineal title? Until he does like it or not Cotto IS the man at 160. The goal here is to unify/became lineal champ, doesn't matter who has the belt the point is to win the belts. You said it yourself, you want GGG to try and unify the belts. How can he if the belt holders aren't fighting him? There's Cotto, Andy Lee who's fighting Quillin and now the vacant IBF belt which will be Ndam vs ____. He's been trying to fight all these guys. The only thing he can do is keep fighting the highest ranked opponents available Until he gets a crack at another title (he's mandatory to Cotto, and perhaps the N'dam vs TBA winner will fight him although as mentioned Ndam already turned down two previous purse bids so who knows what he'll do). David Lemieux's people were saying they didn't want GGG any time soon and now it looks like he has legal issues as he's being sued. It's a mess when it comes to fighters willing to fight GGG even at 168. Who the hell is at 168 who's available to Golovkin? Kessler retire d, Froch isn't interested, Ward is planning a tune up or two for who knows when, Dirrell is fighting DeGale, Bika is fighting Stevenson. No point going there. He'll eventually get Canelo and either Cotto will either have to fight GGG or he'll be stripped and GGG can fight for the vacant title.Last edited by ИATAS; 02-28-2015, 05:21 AM.Comment
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GGG's team has stated they intended for GGG to fight and get knockouts to get more fans, they also stated that he'd fight 154-168 and he's got the #2 p4p only one div up from him @168 but he's scared to fight him. That doesnt scream greatness. If his team believed they could beat Ward they would take the fight. He's shown he would rather fight nobodies than fight Ward a chance a greatness. And Ward is waiting for him to step up, (too bad his fans dont want him to aspire for greatness). The same thing alot of you screamed for floyd to do, you wont ask of GGG and he's gonna be held to the same standards you screamed about when it was someone else. Suck it up! Floyd has fought more World Champions than anyone in history and his resume is questioned, yep GGG's resume is worse than any champion currently in boxing. When your best competition is degale in your boxing career you are a hype job. Ward will fight you, you dont have to fight the guys he fight, he chooses to fight less comp cause he's not as confident as his fans think.
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