What hurts a fighter's stock more a Loss or Ducking?

[Beater_of_ass]

A loss... I can't help but think Floyd would be considered an ATG by some by never fighting Pac. If he loses he won't even be a draw anymore. It depends on the circumstances really. A loss for Cotto to Trout was probably worse for him than not fighting GGG right now.

[-PBP-]

I disagree, everyone remembers rid**** bowe trashing his belt. That tarnished his image more than if he got beat in the fight.

If he loses the fight does he go on to fight Holyfield 2 more times?

How did ducking Mike McCallum hurt Leonard, Duran, Hagler and Hearns legacy? It didn't because they all made good money and put on classic fights with each other.

[The Big Dunn]

A loss. A loss is actually real. A duck is often something some fool on NSB makes up to suit their agenda.

[The Gambler1981]

A loss is usually telling it how it is.

A duck is usually telling it how it might be.

[El-blanco]

If he loses the fight does he go on to fight Holyfield 2 more times?

How did ducking Mike McCallum hurt Leonard, Duran, Hagler and Hearns legacy? It didn't because they all made good money and put on classic fights with each other.

Yes, because they went on to fight other great fighters and I'd argue against them ducking McCallum, hagler in particular. It's not a duck if you're fighting someone superior. My main point was a serial ducker like quillen hurts his stock more than a loss. When Martin Murray lost to Sergio Martinez it propelled him higher.

[Deevel916]

Nothing is worse than a blatant duck. Is says that you didn't have the heart to test yourself against the best.

I'd have the utmost respect for a man who puts it all on the line and fails than someone who doesn't even dare rise to the challenge.

[-PBP-]

Quillin is not that good and doesn't have stock. If he fought GGG he would get KO'd and fade away. By ducking he continues to make money and stay relevant. If Haymon felt Quillin could win he would make the fight because a win and being from NY would propel him to a household name in boxing.

[Deevel916]

A loss. A loss is actually real. A duck is often something some fool on NSB makes up to suit their agenda.

Bowe ducked Lewis. This cannot be disputed.

Adonis ducked Kovalev. This cannot be disputed

LSC ducked Rigo. This cannot be disputed.

Chavez Jr ducked GGG. This cannot be disputed.

Etc....


You guys can call it "business decisions" all you want but the fact remains that they chose NOT to fight. When a person declines a fight against someone viewed as a threat only to turn around and fight a lesser opponent then it can only be seen as a duck!

[SUBZER0ED]

If he loses the fight does he go on to fight Holyfield 2 more times?

How did ducking Mike McCallum hurt Leonard, Duran, Hagler and Hearns legacy? It didn't because they all made good money and put on classic fights with each other.

Luckily, they made up a big pool of great fighters to choose from. As an example of the opposite, neither Mayweather nor Pacquiao has such options. They'd have to fight younger, hungry, unproven opponents if they don't fight each other. A better example of ducking being harmful is Adonis Stevenson. This guy hit the ground running, KOing some recognized names, but when it came time to step up to the next level, he pussed out. He'll be 38 this year, so time is running out for him to turn his ducking rep into a respectable one.

[El-blanco]

Bowe ducked Lewis. This cannot be disputed.

Adonis ducked Kovalev. This cannot be disputed

LSC ducked Rigo. This cannot be disputed.

Chavez Jr ducked GGG. This cannot be disputed.

Etc....


You guys can call it "business decisions" all you want but the fact remains that they chose NOT to fight. When a person declines a fight against someone viewed as a threat only to turn around and fight a lesser opponent then it can only be seen as a duck!

That's it right there. Maidana not fighting broner again and instead fighting Floyd, khan, PAC, or someone else credible is not a duck. Guys on here are too ****** to know the difference.