Why does Ward-stans want GGG to move up?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

So you prefer Ward continues to stay sidelined waiting?


No it's not. I don't pray. If I did, I'd pray for Ward to fight GGG at 160 so he can get that Dawson treatment.

Why are you so worried about what Ward does? He'll get a fight soon enough. He'll re-establish himself at 168 and then the Golovkin fight will loom. And you'll have to come up with more excuses.

My bad, I just listened to an interview, he said 2 tune ups

Hunter said he would like Ward to have a couple of tune-ups to get back into his groove. He didn't say "we need two tune-ups for GGG". You've blatantly lied and fabricated that.

Golovkin doesn't seem to be coming up any time soon so Ward can get a couple of fights in and they can meet at 168 in 2016.

[IronDanHamza]

He could have fought Spinks for big Money though.


Hopkins waited for De la Hoya and Tito just as Ward is probably waiting for GGG. Difference being that Hopkins fought a lot, while Ward just Waits, overprices himself, making ridiculous demands or whatever it is he is doing when he is not fighting.

Possible, but they all have there flaws and all would be bashed by the anti-GGG brigade. Bigger Money? Maybe. Not sure though. It's GGG who's the HBO attraction and the brits you mention is as relevant as Murray. Abraham is possible in Germany, but highly unlikely as I reckon he retires after Sturm. Dirrells? Imagine the critique GGG would get there.

Degale and Groves are on a different stratosphere to Murray not just in name value but in actual quality aswell.

Either Dirrell brother would be one of his best wins Infact probably his best win. Especially Anthony at the moment.

Fact of the matter is there is nothing for Golovkin at 160. He's wasting his time and career there. Let's say by a miracle he gets Cotto, so what? He's going to splatter him like he's supposed to yeah he'll make good money but it's hardly a good fight for him legacy wise

[Hougigo]

Not sure about most but I want Ward to fight both GGG and Kovalev. It makes sense for him to meet GGG at 168lbs first then move up for Kovalev. Ward has already stated that once he moves up he's not coming back down. Besides, after Kovalev who else is there for him to fight at 175lb?

We all know GGG will move up soon, Froch has already declined to fight him so after Quillen there are no big names left in the 160lbs divsion. Ward can get two big fights at 168lbs (GGG, Chavez Jr) before moving up for one big fight at 175lbs (Kovalev)

Who else is there for him to fight at 168?

He's already beaten anybody worth a damn and the only guy to ever beat him numerous times is dead

[joseph5620]

Ward never said he needed 3 tune-ups to fight Golovkin. That's a blatant lie and another excuse used by certain scared fans.

There is a lot of that going on in this thread. It's amusing how much hate Ward is getting simply by being a threat to Golovkin.

[joseph5620]

Degale and Groves are on a different stratosphere to Murray not just in name value but in actual quality aswell.

Either Dirrell brother would be one of his best wins Infact probably his best win. Especially Anthony at the moment.

Fact of the matter is there is nothing for Golovkin at 160. He's wasting his time and career there. Let's say by a miracle he gets Cotto, so what? He's going to splatter him like he's supposed to yeah he'll make good money but it's hardly a good fight for him legacy wise

There are no realistic meaningful fights for him at 160 and there is no reason for people to pretend that they exist.

[The Hammer]

There are no realistic meaningful fights for him at 160 and there is no reason for people to pretend that they exist.

Cotto and Quillan are meaningful fights.

What if GGG like Andre Ward was to call out fighters from a smaller division? Charlo, Trout, Alvarez, and Mayweather would make for meaningful fights.

Mayweather fought Hatton (making him go up from 140 to 147) and JMM (who was champ at 135).

[joseph5620]

Cotto and Quillan are meaningful fights.

What if GGG like Andre Ward was to call out fighters from a smaller division? Charlo, Trout, Alvarez, and Mayweather would make for meaningful fights.

Mayweather fought Hatton (making him go up from 140 to 147) and JMM (who was champ at 135).

They are not going to fight Golovkin and it's pretty obvious.


And Hatton won a belt at 147 before fighting Mayweather so you're incorrect about that

[The Hammer]

And Hatton won a belt at 147 before fighting Mayweather so you're incorrect about that

But he struggled in that fight, and performed better at 140 where he was Ring and lineal champion.

Has Golovkin won a belt at 168?

So is Ward calling out GGG is the equivalent of GGG calling out Trout, Lara, Alvarez and Mayweather?

Ward has fought at 160 before, he should move down.

[IronDanHamza]

Cotto and Quillan are meaningful fights.

What if GGG like Andre Ward was to call out fighters from a smaller division? Charlo, Trout, Alvarez, and Mayweather would make for meaningful fights.

Mayweather fought Hatton (making him go up from 140 to 147) and JMM (who was champ at 135).

Trout a meaningful fight? Please.

Canelo would be decent and Charlo wouldn't be the worst but both get splattered in the end.

Golovkin should be looking upwards not down.

[DoktorSleepless]

Golovkin called out Ward first and still is. Why the fuck are people so pissy about Ward saying yes? Ward will probably have his tuneup next, and hopefully we can it get afterwards. I would think people would be happy about GGG being able to fight a legit opponent, but instead they're hoping Ward moves up before it happens? What the hell wrong you guys? Kovalev has actual business at 175 to take care of that does not involve Ward at all. With the WBC mandating the Stevenson-Kovalev fight, who gives a fuck about Ward going up to 175? 175 does not need Ward right now. 160-168 on the other hand needs Ward-Golovkin as soon as possible because there's nothing else going on.