Why does Ward-stans want GGG to move up?

[BattlingNelson]

If Kessler was a supposed "true warrior", he'd come back and fight someone more on his level like a DeGale or a Dirrell but he refuses those fights.

But you just said that Kessler would come back for the payday! My god your Logic is ******.

[BattlingNelson]

No he wouldn't and he'd get beat by DeGale which would be embarrassing for his legacy whereas Ward already kicked his arse once and is established/undefeated so another loss to him doesn't hurt.

He's clearly get more against those brits. Just quit posting. You haven't got the sligthest idea what you are talking about.

[BattlingNelson]

But he usually disappears from the landscape after the first tune up...

Yeah. Timetable says that it'll be 5 years between live opponents. Ward said he'd fight at HW. At this pace he'll be older than Hopkins is today.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

He's clearly get more against those brits. Just quit posting. You haven't got the sligthest idea what you are talking about.

How exactly would he get more against DeGale than he would against Ward? Ward and Froch are the two biggest fights in his division that bring the most money.

He wants those fights or nothing. True warrior? Lol....more like a crybaby who threw his toys out the pram.

[BattlingNelson]

How exactly would he get more against DeGale than he would against Ward? Ward and Froch are the two biggest fights in his division that bring the most money.

He wants those fights or nothing. True warrior? Lol....more like a crybaby who threw his toys out the pram.

Ward brings no money and would want an insane split to fight Kessler. Against the brits, they'd happily give Kessler the lions share for the chance to get his name on their weak resumees.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Ward brings no money and would want an insane split to fight Kessler. Against the brits, they'd happily give Kessler the lions share for the chance to get his name on their weak resumees.

Kessler-Ward in Denmark would do much better business than either fight against DeGale or Groves. Kessler knows that and that's why he wants those fights.

A "true warrior" would want to show that he's actually better than the second tier fighters in the division. Kessler's career has shown that he has never been a top tier fighter. The fear is that he'd get his arse kicked by a young guy like DeGale and ruin his overrated legacy.

[BattlingNelson]

Kessler-Ward in Denmark would do much better business than either fight against DeGale or Groves. Kessler knows that and that's why he wants those fights.

Not much. The difference would be the revenge from the US (Ward) or UK. That would be a fairly big difference. Add to that the split Kessler would get. Do I really need to keep writing this to make you understand? Please dont ask me to do it a third time.

A "true warrior" would want to show that he's actually better than the second tier fighters in the division. Kessler's career has shown that he has never been a top tier fighter. The fear is that he'd get his arse kicked by a young guy like DeGale and ruin his overrated legacy.

That's your opinion. Froch has a close win and a clear loss against this secondrater. Froch's best work.


Now can we get back to the topic?
Ward has been a champ for 5-6 years in the same division which was cleaned out 3 years ago. When should he move up?
What about GGG? Should he move up now or wait untill 3 years after he has cleaned out MW?

Do they go by the same standard or is GGG from another World?

[deanrw]

I love how everyone seems to have an opinion based on a personal agenda. So I am going to create my own

I see it like this: Ward and Golovkin will meet in the ring when the time is right for both of them.

My own agenda is this. When will GGG start fighting more often? He has a total of 66 rounds in this Decade while Ward has 70 in. Time for GGG to step up the pace!

[Redd Foxx]

There is no double standard. Ward fans want GGG to move up to see the best fight in boxing after May 3. GGG fans want Ward to move up so GGG doesn't have to face him when he moves up.

I see right through guys. Stop it!!!

Seriously. People resort to shamelessly **** logic in order to defame Ward and uplift GGG.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Not much. The difference would be the revenge from the US (Ward) or UK. That would be a fairly big difference. Add to that the split Kessler would get. Do I really need to keep writing this to make you understand? Please dont ask me to do it a third time.

Ward and Froch are clearly Kessler's biggest fights. Everyone knows that. You're trying to save face under this fairy tale that Kessler is some brave warrior.

That's your opinion. Froch has a close win and a clear loss against this secondrater. Froch's best work.

Froch beat Kessler twice on many people's cards. The only reason the first fight was close was because Froch flew in late due to the volcanic ash cloud and the judges were already in the Sauerland's back pocket. Froch showed who was better by clearly winning the rematch.

Now can we get back to the topic?
Ward has been a champ for 5-6 years in the same division which was cleaned out 3 years ago. When should he move up?
What about GGG? Should he move up now or wait untill 3 years after he has cleaned out MW?

Do they go by the same standard or is GGG from another World?

There are still plenty of fights at 168 for Ward which I want to see. 168 is a very talent-laden division especially with some new blood coming up. Ward hasn't fought in a while due to inactivity, if he'd been fighting the kind of pointless fights Golovkin has been fighting then I'd probably be urging him to move up now.

160 is a ghost town. I understand Golovkin staying there if he's going to get the Cotto fight or fight for another belt but other than that, what's the point? I don't want to see more Murrays and Rubios. Ward-Golovkin should happen next year. I want that and most true boxing fans want that