Comments Thread For: Haymon's Continued Rise Will Challenge HBO's Rule

[Foreign Soil]

Haymon innovating should force HBO to do same. That should only result in more programming and better quality programming on WCB and BAD. If this forces HBO just to return those programs to what they were, we all benefit.

Return to showcasing Haymon hypes like Berto would make you happy, I'm sure.

[Bullrider]

Why just blatantly lie?

YEAR 2014

Top 16 as per Fat Dan on twitter:

1 - Chavez-Vera 2 - 1.39M (HBO)
2 - BHop-Kovalev - 1.328M (HBO)
3 - Golovkin-Rubio - 1.304M (HBO)
4 - Crawford-Gamboa 1.208M (HBO)
5 - Marquez-Alvarado 1.198M (HBO)

6 - Donaire-Walters 1.088M (HBO)
7 - Provodnikov-Algieri 1.046M (HBO)
8 - Salido-Lomachenko 1.017M (HBO)
9 - Kovalev-Cedric Agnew 1.006M (HBO)
10 - Viktor Postol-Aydin 1.002M (HBO)

11 - Kovalev-Caparello 990k (HBO)
12- Golovkin-Geale 984k (HBO)
13 - Pascal-Bute 982k (HBO)
14 - Garcia-Herrera 972k (Showtime)
15 - Bradley-Chaves 966k (HBO)
16 - Arreola-Stiverne 940k (ESPN

Haymon/Floyd fanatics are fantasy fans. They don't give a flying t****ze about facts. They don't belong in this sport.

Numbers don't lie.

YEAR 2013

[IMDAZED]

no.

that's my point.

he thinks boxers make more = boxing more popular

he's not taking into account inflation, ppv and cable, athlete's make more now, etc.

boxing is not more popular just because it has higher income now.

Totally agree with you on that point.

[Foreign Soil]

Haymon/Floyd fanatics are fantasy fans. They don't give a flying t****ze about facts. They don't belong in this sport.

Numbers don't lie.

YEAR 2013

It's a landslide, and that's somehow a goto argument for them.

[The Big Dunn]

Return to showcasing Haymon hypes like Berto would make you happy, I'm sure.

Haymon didn't force HBO to put those fights on, they did on their own. Think HBO puts on every show or fight they are pitched?

HBO has the resources to invest in boxing. They used to do a good job. They do a good job with HBO Latino. They don't use HBO2 like I think. Al doing this should make them.

Whats funny is posters like you could care less if we get better fights or more boxing with this move, you just don't want Haymon to be successful in boxing. With guys like you its easy to tell what your real reasons are, but you try and pretend its bad matchups.

You watch Manny v Algieir, you watch wlad against any bum, you watch Kov v Caparello, GGG v adama and say nothing about quality of the fight. then when a haymon managed fighte is on, well he has to fight the top guy everytime or else it sucks.

Your transparent. If HBO uses its resources properly and gets back to where they were, we as fans win.

Just remember-HBO benefited from being in 8 million more homes than SHowtime, so the ratings were almost always higher.

[Foreign Soil]

Haymon didn't force HBO to put those fights on, they did on their own. Think HBO puts on every show or fight they are pitched?

HBO has the resources to invest in boxing. They used to do a good job. They do a good job with HBO Latino. They don't use HBO2 like I think. Al doing this should make them.

Whats funny is posters like you could care less if we get better fights or more boxing with this move, you just don't want Haymon to be successful in boxing. With guys like you its easy to tell what your real reasons are, but you try and pretend its bad matchups.

You watch Manny v Algieir, you watch wlad against any bum, you watch Kov v Caparello, GGG v adama and say nothing about quality of the fight. then when a haymon managed fighte is on, well he has to fight the top guy everytime or else it sucks.

Your transparent. If HBO uses its resources properly and gets back to where they were, we as fans win.

Just remember-HBO benefited from being in 8 million more homes than SHowtime, so the ratings were almost always higher.

GGG Adama wasn't on HBO.

You are the biggest Haymon backer on this site, yet try to accuse me of playing politics here. Laughable, my man.

The fact that we are even talking about Haymon is the problem. He's not even a promoter, he shouldn't have the control he has over who gets to fight who, but he does, and that's what's killing boxing.

[The Big Dunn]

Haymon/Floyd fanatics are fantasy fans. They don't give a flying t****ze about facts. They don't belong in this sport.

Numbers don't lie.

YEAR 2013

Not saying you are completely wrong, its just the table doesn't account for the number of homes HBO is in vs SHowtime. That's why most media discussions (out side of NSB) about this note showtime's growth in viewership relative to the number of homes.

For example, HBO getting 1.6m is in 29 mil homes. SHow getting 1.3 mil is in 21 million homes. HBO is in 1.4 times as many homes. If shwotime was in same homes that 1.3m would be 1.8 mil.

[Daddy T]

meh I'm open to seeing what haymon does. More exposure for the sport is a good thing. I don't believe haymon is necessarily any better or worse than any other promoter/managers out there.

[Bullrider]

When exactly did Haymon rise? Why the use of "continued?" Continued rise in making meaningless exhibition matches for his fighters? Broner is in his third tune up fight now. Thurman's step up fight is Guerrero. This Haymon guy actually have nothing if you think about it. All he does is to prevent meaningful fights from happening.

[Foreign Soil]

Not saying you are completely wrong, its just the table doesn't account for the number of homes HBO is in vs SHowtime. That's why most media discussions (out side of NSB) about this note showtime's growth in viewership relative to the number of homes.

For example, HBO getting 1.6m is in 29 mil homes. SHow getting 1.3 mil is in 21 million homes. HBO is in 1.4 times as many homes. If shwotime was in same homes that 1.3m would be 1.8 mil.

Except it really doesn't work that way. There isn't a linear path to generating bigger numbers. People subscribe because they want to watch your programming.