Comments Thread For: Haymon's Continued Rise Will Challenge HBO's Rule

[tiliheels]

It's about time Boxing was brought back to primetime. Hopefully the commentators aren't bias and hopefully we get some Boxing talk shows that shows boxers, trainers and anyone else involve in the industry in better light than what the public views now.

exactly..this is bigger than just one night..if he puts ont he big fights and ratings are great..everyone will jump on the bandwagon...headlines will read boxing..ppl freakin like fighting..time to dump UFC back to 2nd place..floyd and al have saved boxing..al needed charge floyd provvided that and al is a damn genuis...ppl saying it fails..lol how he got the deals done already with sponsors...

[tiliheels]

doubt it.

boxing left the big network for a reason.

the reasons haven't changed.

mr. know it all please give us your reason...please...u just dont want it in al's hands b/c of the ties he has to floyd..that is strong hate..

[tiliheels]

Challenge how?

I for one like seeing rink walks, inbetween rounds and uncensored post fight interviews.

HBO will always be a superior product because they have decades of experience presenting fights. How many years does Haymon and NBC?

tyson fury vs steven cunningham did 4 million views on nbc doe...

[Left Hook Tua]

son wat u dont understand is boxing had those spots before and the only reason it died was b/c of greed...ppl like bob arum and don king...took it from it from tv to pad their pockets instead of letting everyone watch..they got paid for others to watch...

the reason they switched to ppv/closed circuit was $$$$.

right greed.

did greed disappear all of a sudden?

with ratings/commercial based income for tv networks there just isn't much money. unless tv networks want to throw money away.

ratings will be similar to ESPN. which won't do for a major tv.

another disadvantage is ratings fluctuations. one card's ratings will vary from one to the other. fights on a card will also vary. ad buyers don't like that.

ppl think network tv is more exposure. this ain't the 80's. everyone has cable. ESPN boxing ratings reflects boxing popularity.

boxing is no longer a mainstream sport.

[Dr Rumack]

It's an interesting showdown because they are two very different business models.

Haymon's fights will get a lot of viewers, hopefully at least, but HBO have a deep subscription base which makes it a lot easier to finance fights.

But the real issue is whether or not Haymon can lock guys down to the degree where the premium HBO slots are no longer attractive to them. It's hard to see how he can do that. Can he provide all of his fighters with more money than HBO's best offers? Unlikely.

For Haymon, he needs to kill the rival promoters first. They're the real threat because without them, HBO have to go through him if they want fighters. I doubt he can do it.

[285Kid]

How much power that CBS have in this deal can they forced fighters to fight the good fights? Will they turndown mismatches?

[IMDAZED]

Excellent article. More people should read it instead of throwing silent tantrums and wishing this all fails.

[Left Hook Tua]

tyson fury vs steven cunningham did 4 million views on nbc doe...

2 shows recently cancelled by NBC.

A to Z was avg 3-4 million its 1st month. debut at 4.5 million.

Bad Judge avg 4-6 million its 1st month. debut at 6 million.

both were cancelled by NBC within that month. i looked it up.

now it's hard to compare. different type of show, airing date, financing, demographics, etc.

but that shows you 4 million doesn't mean much.

plus that 4 mill throughout? or just for main event?

plus the demographics of those 4 mill? the kind advertisers want? target?

[Left Hook Tua]

mr. know it all please give us your reason...please...u just dont want it in al's hands b/c of the ties he has to floyd..that is strong hate..

ratings/ad buys. simple enough for you?

i don't give a crap about floyd.

i hate haymon because he puts on crap fights.

[MDPopescu]

the reason they switched to ppv/closed circuit was $$$$.

right greed.

did greed disappear all of a sudden?

with ratings/commercial based income for tv networks there just isn't much money. unless tv networks want to throw money away.

ratings will be similar to ESPN. which won't do for a major tv.

another disadvantage is ratings fluctuations. one card's ratings will vary from one to the other. fights on a card will also vary. ad buyers don't like that.

ppl think network tv is more exposure. this ain't the 80's. everyone has cable. ESPN boxing ratings reflects boxing popularity.

boxing is no longer a mainstream sport.

That's exactly why I repeatedly asked, here, what would Haymon's business model be? No PPVs, no big advertisers... only fighters used to big purses...
... Plus: pirated Web streaming in place... Web ad blockers in place... etc.