Comments Thread For: Groves Reiterates DeGale Snub, Pursues Anthony Dirrell Showdown

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  • Funky_Monk
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    #21
    Originally posted by wlliam
    Thats a good point, Groves going the WBC route isnt wise, of all santioning bodies theyre the most lenient when it somes to enforcing mandatorieis, and they play favoritism. Im not sure what hes rated by the WBC but it could take years to get a shot even for the #1 contender. Degale should just take the shot whoever it is, but i see groves as being more beatable than dirrel which is why IMO Degale prefers to face Groves. In oreder to win a title, would you want to face the better fighter or the more beatable? Which comes to my next point, fighters should to fight nothing but the best, especially at the title level instead of looking for the path with the least resistance.
    Maybe it should be thought of as the long path rather least resistance.

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      #22
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      There's no question Groves is a bigger attraction than degale at this moment in time. That's obviously why Hearn is pushing so much for the fight.

      However, how can he say he's doing the smart thing by waiting on a mandatory in November for 1/20 of the money he'll make in the UK vs Degale on PPV? I just don't get it.

      Is he really that pitiful that he'll rather take a high-risk/low-reward fight as opposed to just granting Degale a 50/50 shot?

      Is he bitter because he took a lower cut the first time? Does he not like Degale or Hearn? is he willing to give up £2million because of that?

      ffs, lose to degale and you're still in the game. It'll be 1-1 after that and you can push for a trilogy after that. I mean, have some common sense.
      Disagree think Groves knows if he loses another rematch would be an extremely hard sell. Given the outcome of the last rematch.

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        #23
        Originally posted by wlliam
        Groves pride not allowing himself to get KOd by Degale, is similar to Khans pride about turning down another title shot against Brook. So i guess its ok for Khan to do it but not Groves huh?
        Khan is looking at bigger fights than Kell Brook. Groves is trying to fight Anthony Dirrell for $200k.

        Groves can do what the *** he wants. I don't care. Will be hilarious seeing him get splattered across the canvas either way.

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        • Grimmer
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          #24
          15% of a split against Anthony Dirrell in America.

          Or a 50% split of a much bigger purse against a guy he's already beat, for a huge rematch in London.

          Not quite sure how George has fücked this up.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Andre Wardttke
            15% of a split against Anthony Dirrell in America.

            Or a 50% split of a much bigger purse against a guy he's already beat, for a huge rematch in London.

            Not quite sure how George has fücked this up.
            That's not the full equation though is it.

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            • Kilrain
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              #26
              Groves is the master of his own destiny and assuredly deserves more than 50% of the pie given his profile in the UK (And that's where the revenue is coming from, UK Box Office). George has a nailed-on WBC title shot, albeit for less money than a DeGale showdown, and he's already beaten DeGale so I can see why he isn't super eager to go over old ground unless he is in the driver's seat.

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              • LacedUp
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                #27
                Originally posted by Funky_Monk
                Disagree think Groves knows if he loses another rematch would be an extremely hard sell. Given the outcome of the last rematch.
                Depends on how he loses. If it's a competitive fight, it won't be hard at all. Or he could bounce back with a couple of wins and it'd get the public going again.

                The worst that could happen is a boring fight like the first one. Luckily it seems people forget how bad it was.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  Khan is looking at bigger fights than Kell Brook. Groves is trying to fight Anthony Dirrell for $200k.

                  Groves can do what the *** he wants. I don't care. Will be hilarious seeing him get splattered across the canvas either way.
                  Yet hes still fighting at a higher level than khan & BOTH will get splattered across the canvas either way

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    Depends on how he loses. If it's a competitive fight, it won't be hard at all. Or he could bounce back with a couple of wins and it'd get the public going again.

                    The worst that could happen is a boring fight like the first one. Luckily it seems people forget how bad it was.
                    Yeah it wasn't great!! Tense but not a classic.
                    I think also maybe it's not just the split but the total.
                    My wife is a contract lawyer and there are always so many subsections and clauses.
                    People here think it's so black and white

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Kilrain
                      Groves is the master of his own destiny and assuredly deserves more than 50% of the pie given his profile in the UK (And that's where the revenue is coming from, UK Box Office). George has a nailed-on WBC title shot, albeit for less money than a DeGale showdown, and he's already beaten DeGale so I can see why he isn't super eager to go over old ground unless he is in the driver's seat.
                      His profile is ****. The only reason he was on Box Office was because of Carl Froch.

                      He's not going to be the "master of his own destiny" or "in the driver's seat" against Dirrell. Far from it. 15% of bugger all compared to 50% of the purse against DeGale which is a guaranteed £2.5million

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