So Nicholas walters to Al Haymon means no lomanchenko fights? Thoughts?

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  • LA_2_Vegas
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    #51
    damn I wanted to see that fight bad.

    Well, Haymon and Arum did one or two fight last year and one involved Loma so we'll see.

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    • Dr.Pepper
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      #52
      Originally posted by Monaco
      Al Haymon is Illuminati confirmed
      Haymon is paying his fighters well

      Leo Santa Cruz made more in his last fight than Kovalev did fighting Hopkins.
      and he's a BANTAMWEIGHT.

      lol

      Robert Guerrero is cashing bigger checks than GGG.

      And taking bigger chances.

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        #53
        Originally posted by LA_2_Vegas
        damn I wanted to see that fight bad.

        Well, Haymon and Arum did one or two fight last year and one involved Loma so we'll see.
        They did or the WBO forced that fight , just like IBF is about to forced Dennis Shafikov (Bob) vs Micky Bey (Haymon) soon

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        • bopbopbbe
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          #54
          Originally posted by Dr.Pepper
          Haymon is paying his fighters well

          Leo Santa Cruz made more in his last fight than Kovalev did fighting Hopkins.
          and he's a BANTAMWEIGHT.

          lol

          Robert Guerrero is cashing bigger checks than GGG.

          And taking bigger chances.
          Kovalev and GGG are taking smaller checks from HBO for more dates and are headlining cards.

          Leo Santa Cruz is fighting bums twice a year and no exposure. He ****ing sucks.

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            #55
            Al is trying to make the NFL ...
            WBL...-world boxing league


            Remember where you heard it.

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            • SkillspayBills
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              #56
              Originally posted by bopbopbbe
              Kovalev and GGG are taking smaller checks from HBO for more dates and are headlining cards.

              Leo Santa Cruz is fighting bums twice a year and no exposure. He ****ing sucks.
              It's called prize fighting. Who is making more money? That's why they sign with Haymon.

              At the end of the day I couldn't care less who is with who as long as the matchups I want to see are made and Walters-Loma makes my mouth water. We shall see how things play out but Bob and Haymon aren't exactly on friendly terms.
              Last edited by SkillspayBills; 02-07-2015, 09:32 PM.

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                #57
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                HBO is not gonna let Haymon put the screws on them for Nick Walters lol. They'd invested a ton more in the more marketable Broner, and let him go when they kicked Haymon out.
                We will see. Regardless of what you think of Walters' ability, he's shaping to be HBO's exciting fighter at 126 (Lomachenko clearly has the talent, but I've only seen the Russel Jr fight, so I'm not sure how exciting his style could end up being). Walters can fight Cuellar (WBA #1 challenger), fight whatever mandatory that comes up after that, and hit the open market.

                27-0, likely 23 KOs, at all of 30 years of age and with a catchy gimmick ("Axe Man" with his axe), in a division with all of maybe two other marketable names [Mares, Lomachenko]. take that bet if you want.

                HBO let Adrien Broner, a budding and charismatic star at 135/140, go and are now left with Chris Algieri and possibly Jessie Vargas being their stars in his stead (Terrence Crawford has clear talent, but I'm not sure if his charisma will ever crossover to the HBO audience tbh).
                Last edited by Scipio2009; 02-08-2015, 06:45 PM.

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                • al-Xander
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                  #58
                  You gotta do what you have to do Arum.
                  This TBE guy will never going to be helpful in making this fight happen.
                  All he's focused on is play blame games. And he thinks people are that ******.

                  You're just wasting time Arum. Execute plan B ASAP.

                  The sooner Pacman moves on, the better.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by HeroBando
                    This thing he's starting up is a league, so that's fracturing the sport by definition. Whether it's good or bad, we'll see, but the economics seem sketchy.

                    Adapt to new order of things lol. These promoters are licking their chops cause the only networks that pay major money for boxing are HBO and SHO. Haymon is out at HBO, and pretty much burned bridges at SHO.
                    What bridge has Haymon burned with Showtime?

                    Though he'll likely make one title defense in primetime on NBC, Showtime is now home to America's newest heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder. Showtime is still the exclusive home of Floyd Mayweather Jr, the sports unquestioned top draw and best fighter. Stevenson's mandatory defense, as mandated by the WBC, is the winner of the WBA/IBF/WBO fight between Kovalev and Pascal (50/50 split of the purse bid has been written into the deal, and Showtime has proven that they are willing to put up the money for fights that they want).

                    On top of that, Haymon has most of the sports young prospects under his umbrella and he's paying for the extra TV dates out of his own pocket.

                    If NBCUniversal, or anyone else for that matter, offered up a content deal, a la FS1 and the UFC, the conversation changes (ie NBCUniversal pays Haymon Boxing $100m per year for 12 primetime fights on NBC, and a weekly boxing series on NBC/NBCSN).

                    Even with that, Haymon would still need an avenue to showcase his fighters that likely break into being PPV stars and PPV-quality fights. It's likely that that outfit would be Showtime.

                    Haymon has 60%-70% of the sports' top name fighters under his umbrella/in his orbit, with that percentage being even higher when considering the sport's top budding prospects.

                    lol at "promoters licking their chops"; HBO, outside of being willing to work with select fighters, is basically exclusive to Top Rank. Where are all of these matchups that can be made for non-HBO (Showtime or otherwise) without working with Haymon?

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                    • Vasyl’s dad
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by SkillspayBills
                      It's called prize fighting. Who is making more money? That's why they sign with Haymon.

                      At the end of the day I couldn't care less who is with who as long as the matchups I want to see are made and Walters-Loma makes my mouth water. We shall see how things play out but Bob and Haymon aren't exactly on friendly terms.
                      So you're more concerned with how much money a fighter makes, than actually seeing great matchups.

                      That is why you watch boxing.

                      Weird.

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