Comments Thread For: DeGale: I Think Froch Ducked Me, But I'm Moving On

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I wouldn't call it a dunk, Froch has been quite clear he wants one more (last?) big pay day and then wants to call it quits, although he has never ruled out a future meeting with DeGale. I'm just happy he's vacated and hasn't held the title hostage.

However, what I'm more disappointed about is Chavez as the most likely next opponent, I feel like it is a waste of a Vegas payday/date. I'd prefer Froch v GGG/Hopkins.

Chavez is the biggest payday of the lot and it would bring the best atmosphere.

I don't know why anyone would want to see Bernard Hopkins. That fight wouldn't even make it to Vegas.

[Daddy T]

I think hopkins is a lose lose fight for froch. If he beats the snot out of hopkins he just beat up and old man who's coming off a one sided beat down against kovalev and if he struggles to an unimpressive and possibly close win in a fairly stinky performance (imo the most likely scenario as I don't feel hopkins is completely shot and can still make things awkward) well that will look even worse.

He should have fought GGG or degale. It seems he has ducked both and couldn't make the fight that he really wanted (chavez) so is going for old man hopkins. GGG for sure and maybe even degale would have earned froch at least as much and imo probably more than a hopkins fight. And I don't like to say 'ducked' when it comes to froch btw as I like him and he has fought pretty much everybody but you know ... if you are no longer willing to fight the best...

[IronDanHamza]

Hopkins makes zero sense.

Nothing to gain.

Not even a big money fight.

[Wicky]

What? It was exactly the same. Froch was mandatory to Calzaghe the same way Groves was mandatory to Froch.

Btw I am not saying there was anything wrong with what Calzaghe did. It was absolutely the right decision but Froch has already done what he didn't do.

It's not the same.

Calzaghe was at the end of his career, the same as Froch is now. Froch wasn't at the same point when facing Groves.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

It's not the same.

Calzaghe was at the end of his career, the same as Froch is now. Froch wasn't at the same point when facing Groves.

What? How do you define when the end of someone's career is before it's happened? Froch was and is nearing the end of his career. He could have done the exact same thing as Calzaghe and dropped his belt to take a couple of big fights then retire.

He fought Groves, Calzaghe didn't fight him. It's literally the exact same scenario.

[Wicky]

What? How do you define when the end of someone's career is before it's happened? Froch was and is nearing the end of his career. He could have done the exact same thing as Calzaghe and dropped his belt to take a couple of big fights then retire.

He fought Groves, Calzaghe didn't fight him. It's literally the exact same scenario.

When they publicly speak about looming retirement and say they're not motivated by titles as much as getting a last 1 or 2 big name fights.

Calzaghe vacated because Froch was not the draw he needed for his retirement funds. Froch is saying more or less the same thing about DeGale.

When Froch fought Groves the first time he was not yet making those same noises about surrendering titles and hanging up his gloves.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

When they publicly speak about looming retirement and say they're not motivated by titles as much as getting a last 1 or 2 big name fights.

Calzaghe vacated because Froch was not the draw he needed for his retirement funds. Froch is saying more or less the same thing about DeGale.

When Froch fought Groves the first time he was not yet making those same noises about surrendering titles and hanging up his gloves.

Calzaghe didn't really say that until after the Hopkins fight. So again you're wrong and it doesn't even make a difference. Froch didn't really want to fight Groves all that much either. He thought he was beneath him.

Froch could have vacated the belt and fought a couple of big fights. He could have even vacated the belt instead of doing the rematch. But he didn't. So he did something Calzaghe didn't do.

[IronDanHamza]

When they publicly speak about looming retirement and say they're not motivated by titles as much as getting a last 1 or 2 big name fights.

Calzaghe vacated because Froch was not the draw he needed for his retirement funds. Froch is saying more or less the same thing about DeGale.

When Froch fought Groves the first time he was not yet making those same noises about surrendering titles and hanging up his gloves.

Froch has been talking about retirement for years.

He said if he lost to Bute he'd retire.

The scenarios are exactly the same except Froch didn't vacate his title he fought Groves.

[Wicky]

Calzaghe didn't really say that until after the Hopkins fight. So again you're wrong and it doesn't even make a difference. Froch didn't really want to fight Groves all that much either. He thought he was beneath him.

Froch could have vacated the belt and fought a couple of big fights. He could have even vacated the belt instead of doing the rematch. But he didn't. So he did something Calzaghe didn't do.

Joe talked about it before moving up in weight to fight BHop. Froch could have/ would have/ should have.... blah blah. He didn't because he wasn't at the point of seriously considering retirement, so he fought Groves, his mandatory. He's now at the same point Calzaghe was at, hence vacating rather than facing DeGale.

[Wicky]

... He said if he lost to Bute he'd retire...

Only to illustrate that he considered himself superior. It's quite common for boxers to do this, e.g. Billy Joe Saunders said exactly the same thing when facing Eubank Jr. It's bravado.