So Wilder turned down 10M for Povetkin.

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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #331
    Originally posted by bigjavi973
    dont be a flip flopper:

    Ideal plan for Frampton.

    He's just won his world title. Get the mandatory against Avalos out the way and then have the big fight with Quigg in the summer. The Rigo fight would be the icing on the cake."

    So basically you want frampton to fight his mando avalos, then a "big" fight against quigg, then rigo... LMAO but then you sh^t on wilder for basically doing the same. Fury, then povetkin or wlad.
    This guy

    I think Fury is more deserving than Povetkin so if Wilder fights him next then I'm OK with that.

    Don't see it happening though. Fury has a mandatory shot against Wlad. Unless Wilder's side make him a huge offer, Fury is going to take the Wlad fight.

    So Wilder should then fight Povetkin but he'll fight some pudding on NBC for 10 times less the money.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #332
      Originally posted by bigjavi973
      dont be a flip flopper:

      Ideal plan for Frampton.

      He's just won his world title. Get the mandatory against Avalos out the way and then have the big fight with Quigg in the summer. The Rigo fight would be the icing on the cake."

      So basically you want frampton to fight his mando avalos, then a "big" fight against quigg, then rigo... LMAO but then you sh^t on wilder for basically doing the same. Fury, then povetkin or wlad.
      yeah, dirk has a clear double standard, especially for certain English fighters. This thread made that clear. he uses the money to defend his point after years of saying he doesn't care what a fighter makes.

      that's why I asked about Floyd and cotto. I never once saw him post anything other than calling Floyd a duck for that.

      Dirk usually does this kind of stuff. I just should have realized it was only because wilder is an American.

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      • Eastcoast
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        #333
        When it comes to what Deontay Wilder will do next, his best interest is irrelevant. Haymon needs his HW champion to help him campaign the PBC. To Haymon $10mill would be a very short-sighted payout.

        Wilder may never see $10mill in earnings over the remainder of his career (consider if he loses in 3-4 fights from now, with $1-$2mill per fight). He serves a purpose to Haymon in return for the position that he's been carefully moved into.

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          #334
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          yeah, dirk has a clear double standard, especially for certain English fighters. This thread made that clear. he uses the money to defend his point after years of saying he doesn't care what a fighter makes.

          that's why I asked about Floyd and cotto. I never once saw him post anything other than calling Floyd a duck for that.

          Dirk usually does this kind of stuff. I just should have realized it was only because wilder is an American.
          Dunn we addressed this several pages ago and most people laughed their asses off at you trying to call anyone biased Mr. Al Haymon avatar.

          When was the last time you didn't drink the bath water of a black American Haymon fighter?

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            #335
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            Dunn we addressed this several pages ago and most people laughed their asses off at you trying to call anyone biased Mr. Al Haymon avatar.

            When was the last time you didn't drink the bath water of a black American Haymon fighter?
            another post not answering questions asked of you. what a b*tch a$$ f@gg0t.

            Yes, I had a haymon avi and think he is great for the sport. the Haymon clients I am big fans of are Floyd, danny garcia and leo santa cruz. I loathe Russell, kill wilder and have posted many times how Broner is wasting his career. I will not watch stevenson until he fights pascal/kov winner. these posts are all easily found.

            you know this but are desperate to deflect from answering the questions asked.

            whether I had a haymon avi or not has nothing to do with your failure to call hatton/witter a duck as you did wilder.
            Last edited by The Big Dunn; 01-29-2015, 05:17 PM.

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              #336
              I'm sure turning this offer down has nothing at all to do with the danger of losing or the self-interest of Mr Haymon . . .

              Assuming this story is real and it probably is as Povetkin has some heavy backers then there really isn't any excuse you can make for Wilder. That is big money. God forbid you become a world champion and be expected to fight one of the best fighters for very large money, it is just not on!
              Last edited by Humean; 01-29-2015, 06:01 PM.

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              • Dirk Diggler UK
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                #337
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                another post not answering questions asked of you. what a b*tch a$$ f@gg0t.

                Yes, I had a haymon avi and think he is great for the sport. the Haymon clients I am big fans of are Floyd, danny garcia and leo santa cruz. I loathe Russell, kill wilder and have posted many times how Broner is wasting his career. I will not watch stevenson until he fights pascal/kov winner. these posts are all easily found.

                you know this but are desperate to deflect from answering the questions asked.

                whether I had a haymon avi or not has nothing to do with your failure to call hatton/witter a duck as you did wilder.
                Dunn lost his marbles again

                I've explained to you several times how the situations are nothing alike but if you don't know now, then you'll never know.

                Your narrative at first was that we call every time a fighter turns down a fight a duck. No Dunn, every situation is different and requires its own analysis. In this case there is no good reason for Wilder to turn down 10 times his largest purse. No amount of you squirming and changing the subject will change that.

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                  #338
                  That's a ridiculous offer that, like many in boxing, is just PR. They know there's zero chance of that happening, so they make the offer and then say "He's ducking!."

                  You want the title, you go take it. Whether it's Wladimir Klitscho, Andre Ward, Takashi Uchiyama, etc etc. Wilder's options are many, and what Povetkin is doing is basically offering to buy the title, having Wilder come to his backyard with far less experience than the guys he's facing, which is something that happens all the time in boxing.

                  And guys go for it, because they don't have a lot of options. But Wilder does, and he's looking at a Klitschko shot, for the real championship, not pawning off his title to Povetkin simply for money. The money is coming regardless.

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                    #339
                    Originally posted by paulf
                    That's a ridiculous offer that, like many in boxing, is just PR. They know there's zero chance of that happening, so they make the offer and then say "He's ducking!."

                    You want the title, you go take it. Whether it's Wladimir Klitscho, Andre Ward, Takashi Uchiyama, etc etc. Wilder's options are many, and what Povetkin is doing is basically offering to buy the title, having Wilder come to his backyard with far less experience than the guys he's facing, which is something that happens all the time in boxing.

                    And guys go for it, because they don't have a lot of options. But Wilder does, and he's looking at a Klitschko shot, for the real championship, not pawning off his title to Povetkin simply for money. The money is coming regardless.
                    So basically don't take the fight, Deonatay, because you'll get your ass beat

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                      #340
                      Is anyone actually surprised?

                      Povetkin is a number 2 at HW, not Wilder, not Fury. I don't care what some people on here say, his resume is better than those two combined, same thing with his boxing ability. He'd beat them both.

                      Outside of Wladimir Klitchko, he's the man to beat at HW division.

                      The only "reasonable" excuse for this duck would be good, old "price is not worth the risk".

                      But he was just offered 10 million dollars.

                      There's only one explanation for this move: Povetkin would beat our new WBC champ and Wilder's people know it.

                      Last edited by Szef; 01-29-2015, 06:44 PM.

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