Vitali Klitschko Ibhof?

[daggum]

Old Holmes was robbed in Denmark with Nielsen.

its strange how your standards are so high and how you can break down other fighters resumes in detail except when it comes to vitali's resume...then your standards suddenly fall through the floor and you resort to simply saying he was so dominant.

[Ravens Fan]

Meh I'm not delusional,Byrd was clearly losing due to workrate but he embarrassed Vit badly in that fight... a 6'6 250 pound machine that had to quit against a middleweight.. what a joke

just like B-hop officially lost to Calzaghe (but i do think that was a robbery) to anyone but nutthuggers that was in the top 5 embarrassments of boxing.. he made Calzaghe "the master boxer=best super middle eva girl" look like he just got in the ring for the first time in his life

Let me see if I understand. Vitali was winning because of work rate alone but Calzaghe lost when he clearly outworked Bhop? Well, I just watched the fight again and guess what? Bhop lost once again and the only thing wrong with the fight was that it wasn't scored unanimously for Joe.

[Death_Adder]

Just makes Vitali's duck all the more worse when you put it like that.

how is it nonsense? he was scheduled to fight him 3 times and pulled out all 3 times. it would have been the best win on his resume so i'm not sure why you are trying to make rahman look bad. if a guy with all those losses would have been vitali's best win what does that say about vitali's resume?

There was no ducking, an injury caused the fight to be called off.

Rahman was ass, he got lucking one night over a fat, jet lagged Lewis.

The Corrie Sanders, Sam Peter, and Shannon Briggs are better wins than the proposed Rahman fight

[daggum]

There was no ducking, an injury caused the fight to be called off.

Rahman was ass, he got lucking one night over a fat, jet lagged Lewis.

The Corrie Sanders, Sam Peter, and Shannon Briggs are better wins than the proposed Rahman fight

sure...an injury.

no those guys aren't close to rahman's level and you know it. rahman's wins over lewis and sanders alone put him well above those guys. he also was robbed in draws against toney and tua.

shannon briggs? gtfo he was a bum who had 1 top 10 win his entire career over liakovich and vitali fought him when he was like 40. sanders had 1 top 10 win over wlad when wlad was getting knocked around by everyone. sam peter beat maskaev and toney. That's not on rahman's level either. Total fail.

[Elroy1]

The case for Vitali Klitschko being the Greatest Heavyweight Boxer of all time is very strong.

He was never dropped in over 50 pro fights with one of the heftiest and highest quality opposition of any HW champ.

And he punched the living crap out of every single opponent he ever faced, even in the couple of fights he technically lost in!

Vitali Klitshko never clearly lost a fight,
Never lost more than 2 rounds of boxing in ANY fight,
Was never even knocked off his feet in any match,
Was a champion so dominant the word "invincible" would have been rather appropriate for a time.

So considering him for entry into the IBHOF is ridiculous.

If any Klitschko does not immediately become an admitted ATG and HOFer, both en****** become immediately defunct and serve no future meaning.

"ATG" and "HOF" are meaningless terms when it comes to a fighter assessment anyhow. It's more a term of respect bestowed upon a fighter for achieving against the criteria of his day (For which Vitali is basially unrivalled!)

Obviously this definition is in conflict with "ALL TIME great" because the fighters never met boxers throughout all time.

[BattlingNelson]

Old Holmes was robbed in Denmark with Nielsen.

Thats true. At least if you ask Holmes. If you bother to watch the fight then it's quite clearly not a robbery.

So beating Holmes is probably as good a win for Nielsen as Tyson is for Lummox. Nice names. Shot to ****.

[VG_Addict]

The case for Vitali Klitschko being the Greatest Heavyweight Boxer of all time is very strong.

He was never dropped in over 50 pro fights with one of the heftiest and highest quality opposition of any HW champ.

And he punched the living crap out of every single opponent he ever faced, even in the couple of fights he technically lost in!

Vitali Klitshko never clearly lost a fight,
Never lost more than 2 rounds of boxing in ANY fight,
Was never even knocked off his feet in any match,
Was a champion so dominant the word "invincible" would have been rather appropriate for a time.

So considering him for entry into the IBHOF is ridiculous.

If any Klitschko does not immediately become an admitted ATG and HOFer, both en****** become immediately defunct and serve no future meaning.

"ATG" and "HOF" are meaningless terms when it comes to a fighter assessment anyhow. It's more a term of respect bestowed upon a fighter for achieving against the criteria of his day (For which Vitali is basially unrivalled!)

Obviously this definition is in conflict with "ALL TIME great" because the fighters never met boxers throughout all time.

Vitali's resume is abysmal.

[Elroy1]

Vitali's resume is abysmal.

In the minds of an objective viewer, Vitali's resume is one of the best resumes!

In the minds of nutbag fans, Vitali's resume is trash.

That's a good and very quick assessment you can do straight away when you meet a new poster.

"If the poster trashes Vitali's resume.. The poster is a nutbag!"

Vitali's opponents are some of the heftiest and strongest on average of any champion.

Vitali's opponents have some of the best records of any other champs opponents in history.

And Vitali's opponents composed those records in turn against opponents who were both heftier on average, and with better records on average, than most all other champs opponents did.

THIS^^^ is a fact! It is demonstrated empirically by clicking around boxrec.

They LOOK good on film too. A few moments watching them fight and it's obvious immediately that say Jerry Quarry, would be immediately knocked out by a guy like say Chris Arreola!

The ONLY reason the Old Time Nut Bags bash VK's resume is because of nostalgia delusion or hidden agenda, or both!

So much for your "opinion"

[SeekDaGreat]

Well, if you want to take him out of the HOF for PEDs, then you might as well wipe out the other 75% of the boxers in there. They all were on something trying to find a competitive edge. Just like any other athlete in any other sport.

[VG_Addict]

In the minds of an objective viewer, Vitali's resume is one of the best resumes!

In the minds of nutbag fans, Vitali's resume is trash.

That's a good and very quick assessment you can do straight away when you meet a new poster.

"If the poster trashes Vitali's resume.. The poster is a nutbag!"

Vitali's opponents are some of the heftiest and strongest on average of any champion.

Vitali's opponents have some of the best records of any other champs opponents in history.

And Vitali's opponents composed those records in turn against opponents who were both heftier on average, and with better records on average, than most all other champs opponents did.

THIS^^^ is a fact! It is demonstrated empirically by clicking around boxrec.

They LOOK good on film too. A few moments watching them fight and it's obvious immediately that say Jerry Quarry, would be immediately knocked out by a guy like say Chris Arreola!

The ONLY reason the Old Time Nut Bags bash VK's resume is because of nostalgia delusion or hidden agenda, or both!

So much for your "opinion"

His best wins are Arreola, a guy who lost every time he stepped up, Chisora, human punching bag Charr, Solis, and blown-up LHW Adamek.

His leftovers keep getting beaten by Wlad's leftovers. Haye beat Chisora, Thompson beat Solis, and Povetkin beat Charr.