Vitali Klitschko Ibhof?

[LacedUp]

Well, that's it then. They didn't make your list. Bloody bums.

Out of curiosity, how does the LacedUp Magazine TOP 10 P4P list look these days?

I didn't mean they weren't top 10 in my mind, I meant they were not top 10 ranked by ring in my mind since they were only put there after they signed to a fight with Vitali.

I don't know, but David Haye is number 1 for sure.

[BattlingNelson]

Smoked my boots?

Let's pretend that they were in fact top 10 guys. Not in my mind, but let's say they were.

That "proves" Vitali had 7 top 10 wins in a near 15 year active fighting career.

Wow!

Aha! So now the goalposts has been moved from 'Ring Magazine ranking' to 'LacedUp's own mind made rankings that fits whatever agenda I choose'.

Yeah. That's fair.

[Ravens Fan]

Dude, you're a pathetic ****rider. If you're 45 as you say, I feel sorry for you. I'm not having an aneurysm over it, you're the one writing these long posts, basically just to prove my point exactly.

Don't you understand that if a guy is not on the top 10 in 2008, then he's not a top 10 fighter in his first fight in March 2009? I think it's you who's dense.

You want to believe that a guy who's never been in the top 10, who's never beaten a top fighter or even a top 15-20 fighter, say like Solis.

He wasn't a top 10 fighter in 2010, but if he was included in say, February 2011 based on him scheduling a fight with Vitali rather than beating a top guy, he's obviously been artificially put into the top 10 which does not make him a top 10 fighter.

Mysteriously, they were both #10 when they fought Vitali. You have to see where they were ranked after the issue magazine updated the rankings after their previous fights. And the answer is not top 10.

Anyway, I don't expect fanboys like you to understand. And with regards to this thread , the irony is obviously lost on you as well

Even though Vitali's resume is still horrible.

I am going to simplify this and try not to write that much. You made a statement that was flat out wrong. I gave you proof that you were wrong and now you want to change the debate.

Let me make this as clear as possible. I honestly don't care why the Ring had them ranked nor do I care how long they were ranked because that simply doesn't matter. And why? Because it is irrelevant to the original conversion. The fact is that both Solis and Johnson were ranked in Ring's top ten when they fought Vitali.

And you can try to spin it and change it and you can debate it to the end of time and for all I care you can even piss on it. Because no matter how much you try it doesn't change the fact that you were simply wrong.

With that said. I will actually agree with you and admit that I am a bit long winded I always have been I'm just not good at condensing and I am okay with that. But it must really suck for you that such an old, quoting you, "diickrider" like myself proved you wrong. Because it honestly seems that you are having a hard time dealing with it.

By the way how many Ring top 10 fighters did Fury beat to get such a lofty ranking? I figured if you start focusing on something else it will give you away out and you can stop embarrassing yourself. Honestly you should have just admitted that you were wrong and it would have ended the discussion.

And now you can't seem to let it go. Just keep repeating to yourself, "I'm not as perfect as I thought I was and I am okay with that." It might really help!