Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: It's 80-20 That Mayweather Fight Will Happen

Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • SchoolTheseCats
    Undisputed Champion
    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
    • Jan 2015
    • 4241
    • 315
    • 24
    • 42,519

    #281
    Originally posted by rasdun
    I think if you're an impartial observer, you will admit that blood testing was an issue and Bob Arum was an issue. Either way, right now, it seems that neither are an issue.
    Arum seems to want the fight more than mayweather does. I could be wrong, but when it doesn't happen, I am curious to hear what Mayweather's new excuse will be
    Arum actually does seem to want the fight more this time so it's no excuse for the fight not to be made for either guy once the networks talks are done going by what's reported is only issue for it not to happen now pac will even agree to extend deadline if that's only issue holding fight from happening doesn't need a big promotional tour and most tours takes 10-12 days max anyways to hit up each city and still gives both camps 2 months training camps

    Comment

    • MisanthropicNY
      Undisputed Champion
      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
      • Jul 2014
      • 7680
      • 288
      • 6
      • 37,612

      #282
      Originally posted by rasdun
      Yeah, but mayweather getting 120 is also 200% or more what he'd get for any other fight. You think he'd get more than 60 million for fighting Cotto, no way
      Floyd is not getting $60 mil for Cotto... I'd be shocked if he even gets a raise..looking at $40 mil..and there won't be Mosley-Canelo on the undercard..it'll be all Mayweather Promotion fighters... good luck selling that PPV against Canelo-Kirkland on free tv...

      Comment

      • elfag
        Alpha fäggot
        Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
        • Jan 2008
        • 15439
        • 3,425
        • 302
        • 65,929

        #283
        "and if you want it higher, I will take 40%"


        Sounds like they are not yet at an official 60/40 split offer like Arum/Pac have been saying for weeks but that the current offer is something like 55/45.

        Matches with what the showtime guy was saying in that there in fact is NOT a contract out for signature yet

        Comment

        • SchoolTheseCats
          Undisputed Champion
          Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
          • Jan 2015
          • 4241
          • 315
          • 24
          • 42,519

          #284
          Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
          I just said that Mayo was clearly a pro-Floyd writer..and he's a FIomo like Ben Thompson level and he's already making excuses for when Floyd ducks Pac for Cotto..and he's bringing up the outdoor stadium WHICH IS HIGHLY IRONIC you have to admit...

          The fight isn't appealing anymore and that's been the case for 3 years now... so if the happens next year or the year after it won't matter to me... I will have the same interest in the fight as I do now..which is I have no interest in the fight...

          I'd rather see Floyd fight Triple G after Cotto..that'd be a fight I'd get excited for... Pac has been KOed, he's slowing down clearly..he's been in wars... Pac would have destroyed May 3-5 years ago... that's when the fight needed to happen..I'd rather see both go in a different direction..
          They both slowing down that is not a valid point that's making a excuse if pac loses you can pretty much say pac has taken the last couple years off with the comp he faced after that ko lost to Marquez none of them guys posed any threat or was heavy hitters

          Comment

          • Scipio2009
            Undisputed Champion
            Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
            • Apr 2014
            • 13741
            • 276
            • 64
            • 98,172

            #285
            Originally posted by rasdun
            , to argue anything about money is absurd. We have heard nothing from either side that they have been unable to agree on the puse split. We have heard nothing other than top-ranked claiming that they've agreed to all the points. So far, Mayweather side has not stated that there is any sticking point. Regardless, as a fan, at this point I don't want to hear anything about money, purse split, whatever. Find a way to get the fight done. Period. That's all
            Floyd, as he's done with every fight negotiation in recent history, is letting the deal be hammered out at the table.

            The fact that Arum has Pacquiao parroting that 60/40 has been agreed to, while Stephen Espinoza has argued that terms are still being negotiated and Haymon, Moonves, the point person at HBO, Hershman, etc are all keeping quiet, the only real conclusion to draw is that things are still being discussed.

            Floyd took 25/75 and Oscar's choice of gloves, among other terms, to make the fight.

            Floyd wants to fight Manny; Manny wants to fight Floyd. Even if comes to 70/30, if Pacquiao really "fight for the fans", he'll push Arum to accept the terms on the table, rather than working to spin the press.

            Comment

            • rasdun
              Undisputed Champion
              Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
              • Jul 2007
              • 1843
              • 48
              • 95
              • 8,765

              #286
              Originally posted by TheWinners
              He's not in his class dude. First of all Canelo is a 154 pounder. He has KO power in both hands. He has a fan base. Enough where he can do his own PPVs. Yeah they won't sell a ton, but Bradley is not on his level in fighting or marketability.

              He beat Trout convincingly. Who beat Cotto convincingly. I remember both of those fights like yesterday. Before that Trout was a undefeated and dangerous fighter. The way I seen him do Cotto convinced me enough that this guy was serious. But Canelo clearly beat the guy even though it wasn't a landslide. He still got a clear UD.




              Talent wise maybe. But in the eyes of the public there was. Who holds more value to you. A guy who just came off a loss, or a guy who came off a win vs a hyped opponent who was getting Mayweather comparisons? On top of that Maidana had already beat a couple of legit WW's. Rios never even fought at WW until that fight.


              Broner had a following and was getting way too much hype. So on that stage the world witnessed an impressive win over the hyped Broner. Regardless of how you view the two fighters, the public view of Maidana is a lot stronger than Rios at that time with him coming off a loss. He didn't have as much popularity as Broner even before the loss.
              I'm not talking about perception, I'm talking about talent. Maidana is better than Rios, but not by much. The gap in competition is not as wide as some would have u believe.
              basically, Maidana had just as much of a chance to beat Mayweather as Rios did in beating Pacquiao, landing that one big punch

              and I'm not talking about marketability either, again, I'm talking about talent. Talent wise, Bradley and Alvarez are very close. And to say that Alvarez beat truck convincingly, I would seriously dispute that. That fight could have went either way

              Comment

              • SchoolTheseCats
                Undisputed Champion
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Jan 2015
                • 4241
                • 315
                • 24
                • 42,519

                #287
                Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
                Floyd is not getting $60 mil for Cotto... I'd be shocked if he even gets a raise..looking at $40 mil..and there won't be Mosley-Canelo on the undercard..it'll be all Mayweather Promotion fighters... good luck selling that PPV against Canelo-Kirkland on free tv...
                It wont be mayweather promotion fighters when he's aligned with al haymon...

                Comment

                • rasdun
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1843
                  • 48
                  • 95
                  • 8,765

                  #288
                  Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
                  Floyd is not getting $60 mil for Cotto... I'd be shocked if he even gets a raise..looking at $40 mil..and there won't be Mosley-Canelo on the undercard..it'll be all Mayweather Promotion fighters... good luck selling that PPV against Canelo-Kirkland on free tv...
                  That's my point. people say Pacquio has no options to make a lot of money. But similarly, Mayweather will make about triple the amount he would otherwise make to fight Pacquiao

                  Comment

                  • SlySlickSmooth
                    SWIFT
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 12735
                    • 421
                    • 291
                    • 26,153

                    #289
                    People just want to hear what Floyd has to say.. does Floyd want the fight? I'm sure he does.

                    But is he really willing to disagree with this fight because of contract terms?

                    Comment

                    • rasdun
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 1843
                      • 48
                      • 95
                      • 8,765

                      #290
                      Originally posted by Scipio2009
                      Floyd, as he's done with every fight negotiation in recent history, is letting the deal be hammered out at the table.

                      The fact that Arum has Pacquiao parroting that 60/40 has been agreed to, while Stephen Espinoza has argued that terms are still being negotiated and Haymon, Moonves, the point person at HBO, Hershman, etc are all keeping quiet, the only real conclusion to draw is that things are still being discussed.

                      Floyd took 25/75 and Oscar's choice of gloves, among other terms, to make the fight.

                      Floyd wants to fight Manny; Manny wants to fight Floyd. Even if comes to 70/30, if Pacquiao really "fight for the fans", he'll push Arum to accept the terms on the table, rather than working to spin the press.
                      agree to an extent, but you cannot compare pack yell at this point to Mayweather at that point. At that point, Mayweather have really never done more than 400,000 pay per view buys

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP