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  • al-Xander
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    #181
    Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
    The one thing I have in common with FIomos now:

    We both don't want to see Floyd v. Manny...


    I think Manny vs. Terence Crawford is a good fight...

    I think Manny vs. Kell Brook is a good fight...

    I'd want to see one of those two fights...

    Manny vs. Khan = won't happen Khan is on Showtime under contract...

    Floyd v. Cotto 2= not buying Cotto as a serious contender because he beat an ESPN2 fighter and an inactive, old, Sergio coming off of a major injury...
    Same with me. I have one thing in common with TBE's worshipers. I don't want this fight to happen. I don't want this boring guy to make that kind of money. He doesn't deserve it.

    I'm certain it will be one of the most boring fights eva. TBE will be expected to run, clinch, with Bayless screaming, "BREAK!"

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    • tiliheels
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      #182
      Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
      40 million - 35% would come out to 80 mil? ROFLLLL...Dude you're seriously nuts...

      40 million + 35%...Manny would take that in a heartbeat..that's more than 40% straight up lol...

      The offer I heard about was 40 mil guaranteed with 35% of the Revenue...not 40 mil + 35% lol..
      jacka ss i meant 40 millino up front and 35% of ppv..thats wat espinoza said manny turned down on twitter just earlier this month

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      • tiliheels
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        #183
        Originally posted by ironmt
        Is a fighters legacy built on three fights or Is his entire career taken Into consideration?
        Career PPV Buys

        Mayweather: 14.2 million; Pacquiao: 13.6 million

        Career PPV Revenue

        Mayweather: $860 million; Pacquiao: $755 million

        Pacquiao deserves 40%
        well this aint legacy this is negotiations..and they going by numbers..not total ppv's that u been in..

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        • MisanthropicNY
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          #184
          Originally posted by Scipio2009
          -Cotto, if the talks for a second fight happens, will likely take a 80/20 split.

          -Pacquiao, if the fight even happens, seems to think that he's giving ground at 60/40.

          ignore the disconnect if you want.
          Floyd-Cotto 2 has flop written all over it... Cotto did 350 K ppvs in the states with Sergio Martinez... How many PPVs did Sergio do with Chavez Jr lol?

          This idea that Cotto is the 3rd biggest PPV star has always been incorrect.. Floyd-Cotto had Mosley-Canelo on the undercard...

          Canelo-Mosley itself would do at least 400K PPV+ Canelo did 350 with nobodies...

          Floyd is one..Manny is two... Chavez Jr./Canelo are 3 and 4...you can make an argument for Cotto being 5th biggest star...

          Floyd getting 100% of the Revenue for the Cotto fight is less than 60/40 Pac because you're talking about a rematch of a fight that wasn't controversial against the biggest fight in the history of boxing...

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          • Scipio2009
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            #185
            Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem
            You're missing the point that Manny was with Arum in 2009....so why is Arum the sticking point for negotiations now?

            Floyd claims Pacman has Marquez problems but there are lots of boxers Floyd faced who had losses like Maidana. My point is Floyd is a hypocrite and his contract offers are a joke because he's so wishy washy. He sets up more and more roadblocks once the previous ones are agreed upon from Mannys camp giving me the indication he doesn't want the fight. Being that he is the A side....if he really wanted the fight it would have happened by now. It doesn't take 5-6 years getting a fight together when you're the a side.
            2009 was before Mayweather made $40m to fight Victor Ortz, $40m to fight Shane Moseley, and $40m to fight Miguel Cotto.

            Floyd has proven to himself that $50m is an attainable purse to get on his own, a fact that was not proven when he bit his tongue and sat down with Arum.

            Pacquiao almost literally has no other fights that would merit him getting $25m, without Top Rank taking a bath on the matchup. To try and argue different is disingenuous.

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            • tiliheels
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              #186
              Originally posted by JoeMan
              Same with me. I have one thing in common with TBE's worshipers. I don't want this fight to happen. I don't want this boring guy to make that kind of money. He doesn't deserve it.

              I'm certain it will be one of the most boring fights eva. TBE will be expected to run, clinch, with Bayless screaming, "BREAK!"
              why do u think manny is a contender he beat an injured bradley and espn's own chris algier...and he couldnt stop them like cotto did both of his guys...
              u just contradicted yourself to hate on floyd..stop hating on floyd and just praise manny if u a real fan an not just some hater..thats why u give us pac fans a bad name..btw cotto never been face first on the deck either..nor has he been knocked down in his last 6 fights..or stunned to ****s like manny was with bradley

              dont live in manny;s history live in the now...cotto lost 1 fight imo..to floyd..but he was kicking his ass in the process of losing

              trout he was fat..so yea u can count that against him too...manny drained a damaged cott that had not got redemption on marquez yet..cotto even said he was not a confident fighter no more...and anyone who coutns the margo loss is nuts

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                #187
                Originally posted by tiliheels
                why do u think manny is a contender he beat an injured bradley and espn's own chris algier...and he couldnt stop them like cotto did both of his guys...
                u just contradicted yourself to hate on floyd..stop hating on floyd and just praise manny if u a real fan an not just some hater..thats why u give us pac fans a bad name..btw cotto never been face first on the deck either..nor has he been knocked down in his last 6 fights..or stunned to ****s like manny wbyas with bradley
                put it on this site amazes me. To say that Pacquiao isn't a contender, WTF?! ?Pacquiao's win over Bradley is very impressive. and if anyone else did to Brandon Rios and Chris algieei what pac did, they would be hailed as the second coming. But because its pac , who set the bar so high wit his run from '08-'11, and he didn't get the knock out, they were very unimpressive performances. and he's not a contender. It's laughable. Any real boxing mind, boxing trainer, ect., acknowledges Pacquiao for being the all-time great and current great fighter that he is. Anyone that says otherwise, is really not being impartial

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                • MisanthropicNY
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by Ruthless One
                  If Floyd said Pac should get nothing, you can bet your ass Floyd worshipers would agree with it.
                  LOL this is true.. After FIomos wrote post after post trying to convince anyone who would read that $40 mil flat to the pound for pound king was a good deal...

                  I could see a $0 flat offer to Pac...

                  FIomos: "Pac said it's not about money, he would give it all to charity, he should take the fight and then if he wins he can negotiate the rematch on his terms doughhhhhhh"

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                  • rasdun
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by rasdun
                    put it on this site amazes me. To say that Pacquiao isn't a contender, WTF?! ?Pacquiao's win over Bradley is very impressive. and if anyone else did to Brandon Rios and Chris algieei what pac did, they would be hailed as the second coming. But because its pac , who set the bar so high wit his run from '08-'11, and he didn't get the knock out, they were very unimpressive performances. and he's not a contender. It's laughable. Any real boxing mind, boxing trainer, ect., acknowledges Pacquiao for being the all-time great and current great fighter that he is. Anyone that says otherwise, is really not being impartial
                    and even if some idiot doesn't think Pacquiao is somehow worthy of fighting Mayweather, who really cares. It's obvious this is the only fight that captivates the imagination of the American public, and it's not even close. It would really be a big blow to boxing if this fight does not happen. Anyone that thinks otherwise is really kidding themselves

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                    • smoothsmg
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by bigjavi973
                      and floyd is the one that had TWO 2 mill ppvs and they are almost neck and neck in total ppv buys... 60/40 or floyd and his fans that agree to anything lower than 40% can literally f^ck themselves.
                      Besides Manny having over double digit more fights than Floyd, he has been on 19-20 ppvs while Floyd has only been on 13. Now I am not sure if you are only counting Manny numbers from when he headlined the card or all that he has participated in but thats the case.

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