How would Roy Jones who fought at HW have done against past small Heavies?

[Suckmedry]

Of all the old heavies Frazier would be my last pick to be Roy. Slow, predictable, the definition of flat footed, not much bigger unless you count chub.

"Rugged" but that doesn't mean much when you get his with stuff you never see coming. Roy dodging deliberate looping hooks and making Joe look stupid.

Frazier gets criminally underrated on here. The man was a like a race car that started slow and then slammed into gear 2nd half of the fight, when he started "smokin" Theres no way in hell Roy eats a flush left hook from Frazier and leaves the ring standing up. No way no how.

[Elroy1]

Ali a small heavyweight? LOL ok.

I'll bite, he gets stopped by all of them, he might have a chance against Patterson who was legitimately small and Marciano who was slow and more of a cruiser but I think Rocky would catch him and Jones gets stopped.

All of these guys including Ali are natural cruisers.

When Ali was a real HW he was a fat plodding overweight.

Some of the others are more like natural light-HW's even!

AS IF Roy would lose any rounds against any of them or fail to knock them out!

[soul_survivor]

All of these guys including Ali are natural cruisers.

When Ali was a real HW he was a fat plodding overweight.

Some of the others are more like natural light-HW's even!

AS IF Roy would lose any rounds against any of them or fail to knock them out!

Elroy you're a ****ing fool, how you haven't been banned yet is crazy, get back to your far right, Nazi march.

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Marciano wasn't "more of a cruiser" -- he was more of a light heavyweight who didn't bother to cut weight with a skeleton similar to modern middleweights. He weighed in the 18X range, and not a lean 18X, a "who gives a ****" 18X.

Ali wasn't much heavier, also a light heavyweight in the Olympics, hypothetical "small cruiser" in his prime, only a true heavyweight by the time he was getting old and fat.

Roy's size would not have been that much of a factor. He wouldn't even need to come in as big as he did for the Ruiz fight and could preserve more of his speed.

[Elroy1]

Elroy you're a ****ing fool, how you haven't been banned yet is crazy, get back to your far right, Nazi march.

Uh??? Yeah right!!!

And I would be banned why? Exactly?

Your constant assaults on posters ought to see you banned more like it!

NAZI march?

That comment seems quite reprehensible actually!

Not to mention amusingly ridiculous. Roy is a black AND American fighter, yet somehow there are racist motives hidden in my post?

Unbelievable!

[Elroy1]

Marciano wasn't "more of a cruiser" -- he was more of a light heavyweight who didn't bother to cut weight with a skeleton similar to modern middleweights. He weighed in the 18X range, and not a lean 18X, a "who gives a ****" 18X.

Ali wasn't much heavier, also a light heavyweight in the Olympics, hypothetical "small cruiser" in his prime, only a true heavyweight by the time he was getting old and fat.

Roy's size would not have been that much of a factor. He wouldn't even need to come in as big as he did for the Ruiz fight and could preserve more of his speed.

Agreed.

This is a solid post.

I dare one of the nut bag community to formulate a response to this very powerful post

[bklynboy]

Marciano wasn't "more of a cruiser" -- he was more of a light heavyweight who didn't bother to cut weight with a skeleton similar to modern middleweights. He weighed in the 18X range, and not a lean 18X, a "who gives a ****" 18X.

Ali wasn't much heavier, also a light heavyweight in the Olympics, hypothetical "small cruiser" in his prime, only a true heavyweight by the time he was getting old and fat.

Roy's size would not have been that much of a factor. He wouldn't even need to come in as big as he did for the Ruiz fight and could preserve more of his speed.

Marciano ran everyday (including Christmas) and walked around at 200+. His training was closer to Mayweather in that he stayed in shape constantly as opposed to a Duran who gained weight between fights. He cut weight because he felt he didn't lose power but would be faster and have more endurance. Whatever he was - he wasn't a light heavy who didn't cut weight.

Ali, whose first pro fights came when he was 18, weighed in the low 190s. In his prime he was in the 210-215 range.

[joseph5620]

Marciano wasn't "more of a cruiser" -- he was more of a light heavyweight who didn't bother to cut weight with a skeleton similar to modern middleweights. He weighed in the 18X range, and not a lean 18X, a "who gives a ****" 18X.

Ali wasn't much heavier, also a light heavyweight in the Olympics, hypothetical "small cruiser" in his prime, only a true heavyweight by the time he was getting old and fat.

Roy's size would not have been that much of a factor. He wouldn't even need to come in as big as he did for the Ruiz fight and could preserve more of his speed.

I see you and Elroy are cut from the same cloth. That's two ridiculous and incorrect post from you in this thread.

[Robbie Barrett]

Marciano wasn't "more of a cruiser" -- he was more of a light heavyweight who didn't bother to cut weight with a skeleton similar to modern middleweights. He weighed in the 18X range, and not a lean 18X, a "who gives a ****" 18X.

Ali wasn't much heavier, also a light heavyweight in the Olympics, hypothetical "small cruiser" in his prime, only a true heavyweight by the time he was getting old and fat.

Roy's size would not have been that much of a factor. He wouldn't even need to come in as big as he did for the Ruiz fight and could preserve more of his speed.

Ali weighed over 200+ for Liston he'd be a small HW by todays standards but no damn small cruiser. Jones cherry picked one of the worst title holders in HW history for a reason and you think he'd beat some of the greatest ever? Jones could take all the roids in America and still wouldn't beat Ali.

[Elroy1]

Ali weighed over 200+ for Liston he'd be a small HW by todays standards but no damn small cruiser. Jones cherry picked one of the worst title holders in HW history for a reason and you think he'd beat some of the greatest ever? Jones could take all the roids in America and still wouldn't beat Ali.

But Ali was smashed up by guys who would never even be able to enter the ring with Jones. That is a fact!

Your pitting Ali, a man who could barely bloody box against one of the greatest boxers!