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  • #91
    The thing is the testing hasn't even been legitimately refused or accepted. All speculation for now, but the usual suspects are making declarations.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Hype job View Post
      Armstrong was strongly suspected for decades.

      You could argue catching him was a way of legitimising their brand "look we got Armstrong"
      USADA is sponsored by the US government. They are the official anti-doping organisation for the United States. Just like UKAD is the official anti-doping agency for the United Kingdom, sponsored by the UK. Nothing is beyond corruption though, but organisations like these are the least likely and have a lot to lose. Keep in mind, they are non-profit organisations to begin with.

      All you are doing is conjuring up conspiracy theories. It's nothing different from someone saying the ***s or the Japanese blew up the Towers on 911. Or someone saying Tupac is alive living in Cuba. You belong in that same insane asylum.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
        They didn't even allow Armstrong to get away, and he had a clean image, cancer posterboy, tons of endorsements, etc. Armstrong had so much more to lose and was an American hero of sorts. Mayweather is an American villain if anything. Total opposite. But yet, they're going to protect him and not protect Armstrong? Yeah, keep believing that fairy tale.

        The Peterson scandal happened with VADA. Morales, USADA. Morales got sanctioned, and so did Peterson.
        Raheem you are completely wrong about this, and you are mixing your wires. First off, I don't know what you mean by they didn't allow Armstrong to get away. I don't think you know either.

        Because Armstrong DID get away with it. His team mates are the one that outed him, not testing. In fact, Armstrong apparently DID test positive for PEDs and it was swept under the rug by the testing agency according to the same team mates who exposed him. So, you are completely wrong, they did let him get away with, until his team mates got him. Not USADA. Sweeping Armstrongs positive test proves USADA corruption and ease at hiding tests.

        Now if the testing protocols allow a fighter to suppress dirty results with a waiver, then that can 100% happen. USADAs protocals are well known to have this in boxing.

        And again, you comparison of USADA and VADA is so wrong headed. VADA is FAR FAR FAR stricter and uses the latest testing techniques. This is proven by the fact Morales only tested for a stimulant, not a steroid. The only ones catching steroid use is VADA, the very test they used to catch Peterson is a test NOT USED by USADA. VADA catches steroid cheats in boxing, USADA does not.
        Last edited by Heavyfist; 01-20-2015, 05:18 PM.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Heavyfist View Post
          Raheem you are completely wrong about this, and you are mixing your wires. First off, I don't know what you mean by they didn't allow Armstrong to get away. I don't think you know either.

          Because Armstrong DID get away with it. His team mates are the one that outed him, not testing. In fact, Armstrong apparently did test positive for PEDs and it was swept under the rug according to his team mates. So, you are completely wrong, they did let him get away with, until his team mates got him. Not USADA.

          Now if the testing protocols allow a fighter to suppress dirty results with a waiver, then that can 100% happen. USADAs protocals are well known to have this in boxing.

          And again, you comparison of USADA and VADA is so wrong headed. VADA is FAR FAR FAR stricter and uses the latest testing techniques. This is proven by the fact Morales only tested for a stimulant, not a steroid. The only ones catching steroid use is VADA, the very test they used to catch Peterson is a test NOT USED by USADA. VADA catches steroid cheats in boxing, USADA does not.
          His teammates did put him on blast, but you are forgetting why. His teammates put him on blast because THEY were caught with positives. So as an incentive to get their sanctions reduced, they were asked to tell them what they knew about Armstrong. Also yes, Armstrong did test positive before, but always had an out like legit prescriptions from medical doctors that were bribed.

          USADA and VADA are the same thing, there is no latest testing techniques and far stricter thing. All USADA and VADA does is take samples and send them to the same exact UCLA lab for results. That's it! USADA and VADA do not run tests internally. Just the fact that you didn't recognise this I have to stop typing.

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          • #95
            Where were the racists at when Andre Ward said "We already signed the contract doeeeeee, can't do random testing"

            "I can't fight in Europe doeeeeeee, I'll only enter the Super 8 if I have all of my fights in the U.S... I don't want to undergo VADA testing..."

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Heavyfist View Post
              Raheem you are completely wrong about this, and you are mixing your wires. First off, I don't know what you mean by they didn't allow Armstrong to get away. I don't think you know either.

              Because Armstrong DID get away with it. His team mates are the one that outed him, not testing. In fact, Armstrong apparently DID test positive for PEDs and it was swept under the rug by the testing agency according to the same team mates who exposed him. So, you are completely wrong, they did let him get away with, until his team mates got him. Not USADA. Sweeping Armstrongs positive test proves USADA corruption and ease at hiding tests.

              Now if the testing protocols allow a fighter to suppress dirty results with a waiver, then that can 100% happen. USADAs protocals are well known to have this in boxing.

              And again, you comparison of USADA and VADA is so wrong headed. VADA is FAR FAR FAR stricter and uses the latest testing techniques. This is proven by the fact Morales only tested for a stimulant, not a steroid. The only ones catching steroid use is VADA, the very test they used to catch Peterson is a test NOT USED by USADA. VADA catches steroid cheats in boxing, USADA does not.
              This is the reason that Floyd Mayweather said "I only use USADA testing in my fights doeeeeeeee"

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              • #97
                where was all the hate when ward and hopkins didn't wanna get tested?

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
                  where was all the hate when ward and hopkins didn't wanna get tested?
                  People were talking about it, including myself, you just chose to ignore it.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by HanzGruber View Post
                    He saying picking the dates when you'll get tested is ******ed (which it is)
                    Duva said that, Klimas says they're ok with random testing you selective reading dumbfuck.

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                    • Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
                      where was all the hate when ward and hopkins didn't wanna get tested?

                      There was plenty of it on this site. Including myself. Unless you're blind you would have seen it.


                      Or you're conveniently ignoring it to avoid commenting on this situation.
                      Last edited by joseph5620; 01-20-2015, 05:31 PM.

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