Comments Thread For: Pascal Slams Lack of PED Testing, Team Kovalev Respond

[Ray*]

That's a bit dodgy, especially how vocal Kathy duva is but now she is unReachable?

[MDPopescu]

Raheem you are completely wrong about this, and you are mixing your wires. First off, I don't know what you mean by they didn't allow Armstrong to get away. I don't think you know either.

Because Armstrong DID get away with it. His team mates are the one that outed him, not testing. In fact, Armstrong apparently DID test positive for PEDs and it was swept under the rug by the testing agency according to the same team mates who exposed him. So, you are completely wrong, they did let him get away with, until his team mates got him. Not USADA. Sweeping Armstrongs positive test proves USADA corruption and ease at hiding tests.

Now if the testing protocols allow a fighter to suppress dirty results with a waiver, then that can 100% happen. USADAs protocals are well known to have this in boxing.

And again, you comparison of USADA and VADA is so wrong headed. VADA is FAR FAR FAR stricter and uses the latest testing techniques. This is proven by the fact Morales only tested for a stimulant, not a steroid. The only ones catching steroid use is VADA, the very test they used to catch Peterson is a test NOT USED by USADA. VADA catches steroid cheats in boxing, USADA does not.

This is exactly what happened actually...

[HanzGruber]

Duva said that, Klimas says they're ok with random testing you selective reading dumbfuck.

wtf are you talking about, when i said "HE" i mean imdazed
youre the one that cant read

[Heavyfist]

His teammates did put him on blast, but you are forgetting why. His teammates put him on blast because THEY were caught with positives. So as an incentive to get their sanctions reduced, they were asked to tell them what they knew about Armstrong. Also yes, Armstrong did test positive before, but always had an out like legit prescriptions from medical doctors that were bribed.

USADA and VADA are the same thing, there is no latest testing techniques and far stricter thing. All USADA and VADA does is take samples and send them to the same exact UCLA lab for results. That's it! USADA and VADA do not run tests internally. Just the fact that you didn't recognise this I have to stop typing.

The fact that you do not recognize that they have different testing protocols which have been outlined many many times, means you probably should stop typing. As has been repeated a million times, regardless of the tests, USADA and VADA have DIFFERENT testing Protocols.

THIS is a cold stone fact. They are not the same at all. Why was VADA created if they are the exact same? Google is your friend. Conte has done longass comprehensive interviews how COMPLETELY different the testing protocols and tests are with VADA. One of the biggest issues in the difference is the waivers. In fact, Peterson got a waiver after the fact, and hoping to suppress the test, given the common use of waivers.

And VADA use the labs with the latest tests. They are not bound to any lab, like USADA is. They do different tests FACT.

http://www.*************.com/showthr...=402520&page=3

They call WADA testing the "gold standard" but that's only because they've pioneered the random testing that the Olympics use. The NFL, MLB and NBA have just as good drug testing and VADA has incorporated things that actually has proven MORE effective than what USADA presently uses....the whole CIR tests made it possible to catch both Berto and Peterson where WADA and USADA would have missed.

Unless, you seriously think VADA was created to do the exact samething as USADA? You need to read a bit on VADA. The WHOLE point of VADA is to circumvent all the BS, and it works.

These CIR tests is a new thing, and was only used by VADA. Why did the urine test of the first fight against Peterson yield nothing? Cuz they didn't do this new test.

[Ray*]

Raheem you are completely wrong about this, and you are mixing your wires. First off, I don't know what you mean by they didn't allow Armstrong to get away. I don't think you know either.

Because Armstrong DID get away with it. His team mates are the one that outed him, not testing. In fact, Armstrong apparently DID test positive for PEDs and it was swept under the rug by the testing agency according to the same team mates who exposed him. So, you are completely wrong, they did let him get away with, until his team mates got him. Not USADA. Sweeping Armstrongs positive test proves USADA corruption and ease at hiding tests.

Now if the testing protocols allow a fighter to suppress dirty results with a waiver, then that can 100% happen. USADAs protocals are well known to have this in boxing.

And again, you comparison of USADA and VADA is so wrong headed. VADA is FAR FAR FAR stricter and uses the latest testing techniques. This is proven by the fact Morales only tested for a stimulant, not a steroid. The only ones catching steroid use is VADA, the very test they used to catch Peterson is a test NOT USED by USADA. VADA catches steroid cheats in boxing, USADA does not.

You are totally wrong, USADA pursued Armstrong till they use his teammate to get him, they knew he was dirty and they went after him but he was alway one step ahead with help from different sources. Even when he tested dirty it was NOT USADA who swept it under the carpet, that was the cycling world that swept it under the carpet because of his name, influence and money that Armstrong donated to them. USADA pursue him to the day he confesses.

[Y0@NN]

wtf are you talking about, when i said "HE" i mean imdazed
youre the one that cant read

I know that, you agreed with Im'Dazed saying Duva picking the dates makes the test not random. Well, Klimas said they agree to random testing.

[MrRolltide91]

That's a bit dodgy, especially how vocal Kathy duva is but now she is unReachable?

lol she has to come up with an excuse

[Ray*]

The fact that you do not recognize that they have different testing protocols which have been outlined many many times, means you probably should stop typing. As has been repeated a million times, regardless of the tests, USADA and VADA have DIFFERENT testing Protocols.

THIS is a cold stone fact. They are not the same at all. Why was VADA created if they are the exact same? Google is your friend. Conte has done longass comprehensive interviews how COMPLETELY different the testing protocols and tests are with VADA. One of the biggest issues in the difference is the waivers. In fact, Peterson got a waiver after the fact, and hoping to suppress the test, given the common use of waivers.

And VADA use the labs with the latest tests. They are not bound to any lab, like USADA is. They do different tests FACT.

http://www.*************.com/showthr...=402520&page=3



Unless, you seriously think VADA was created to do the exact samething as USADA? You need to read a bit on VADA. The WHOLE point of VADA is to circumvent all the BS, and it works.

These CIR tests is a new thing, and was only used by VADA. Why did the urine test of the first fight against Peterson yield nothing? Cuz they didn't do this new test.

CIR testing is NOT a new thing. CIR testing is also administered by WADA which USADA falls under, the different is WADA acceptable CIR testing levels is a lot higher than VADA one.

[Skip Bayless]

just fvkin fight, if u think he is on steroid **** it u take some too

[Ray*]

lol she has to come up with an excuse

Well I guess we would have to wait till they reach her, she has previously proved very reachable when he is putting people on blast on how they were ducking Kovalev.