Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao Talks Stalled By Network Battle

[joseph5620]

Showtime needs to make up for all the money they've lost with floyds deal. They can't afford to split profits with HBO.

Believe me when I tell u that they are more interested in carrying a floyd/Cotto card all by themselves instead of splitting $ with HBO for Floyd/Pac. Problem is, they can't afford to pay Cotto what he wants on top of floyds guarantee.

Okay, show sources and links for that. Otherwise you're making things up as usual. There's no reason for anybody to "believe" you when you know nothing about Showtime wanting a Cotto-Mayweather fight. Where's your source?

In this situation HBO is being far more unreasonable. If they're unwilling to do this the same way they did for Lewis-Tyson that is telling.

[Flash13]

Because TR has a c working relationship with HBO. BUT, Manny doesn't have an exclusive contract with HBO the way Floyd does with SHO. Therefore Floyd HAS to fight on SHO. Manny PREFERS fighting on HBO.

This is 100% completely inaccurate. Manny does have an exclusive deal with HBO.

[tiliheels]

MANNY has signed to fight for top rank and golden boy at the same time...now he has signed to fight w/o even knowing the network its on...CLASSIC MANNY..ALL MEDIA HYPE ONCE AGAIN...100 PERCENT CHANCE THIS FIGHT DOES NOT ****ING HAPPEN..AND NOT B/C OF THE FIGHTERS..BUT B/C ITS A BUSINESS AND BOXING IS A BONEHEADED ASS SPORT...NO ONE SHOULD BE SIGNING THEIR LIFE AWAY TO NETWORKS UNLESS U GET A FLOYD TYPE OF DEAL AND THAT IS ONLY 2 YEARS..

[Thutch2412]

You know what sucks for us boxing fans? Is that Bob Arum isnt 15 or 20 years older cuz he def wouldnt be around to block this fight.

[Daddy T]

MANNY has signed to fight for top rank and golden boy at the same time...now he has signed to fight w/o even knowing the network its on...CLASSIC MANNY..ALL MEDIA HYPE ONCE AGAIN...100 PERCENT CHANCE THIS FIGHT DOES NOT ****ING HAPPEN..AND NOT B/C OF THE FIGHTERS..BUT B/C ITS A BUSINESS AND BOXING IS A BONEHEADED ASS SPORT...NO ONE SHOULD BE SIGNING THEIR LIFE AWAY TO NETWORKS UNLESS U GET A FLOYD TYPE OF DEAL AND THAT IS ONLY 2 YEARS..

didn't read ... try it without caps lock next time

[wlliam]

HBO and Team Pacquiao deserve a fair shake. After all Pacquiao is the more explosive and exciting fighter and that's what the fans want to see. Plus dude has all of the Filipino country glued to the tube every time he fights which is more than we can say for Floyd.

You might be right, but the reality is more ppl tune to watch Floyd and honestly thats a fact you ant argue, #s dont lie.

And you say HBO deserve a fair shake? Like the last time they dealt with Showtime and the circunstances were in their own favor? Had that been the case this time, you think HBO would give Showtime a "fair shake"?

[Daddy T]

Showtime needs to make up for all the money they've lost with floyds deal. They can't afford to split profits with HBO.

Believe me when I tell u that they are more interested in carrying a floyd/Cotto card all by themselves instead of splitting $ with HBO for Floyd/Pac. Problem is, they can't afford to pay Cotto what he wants on top of floyds guarantee.

dunno about that floyd cotto could bomb out as at this stage if he doesn't fight pac it will be seen as a massive duck ... added to the fact that cotto will demand a tonne. imo Showtime would probably lose money on it.

[Scipio2009]

Think about it.... All of a sudden Floyd is ok with working with arum and giving Pac more than $40mil. He said yes because he knows the fight will get killed behind the scenes and he can say that he agreed to the terms taking blame away from himself.

or ... Arum is being Arum and the actual negotiations are nowhere near as far along as he's been selling to the media, which is nothing new for Arum.

Arum has said a lot of things without actually saying anything.

Testing has been agreed to, but is USADA or VADA going to handle things? The MGM Grand is apparently the venue, but there's been no mention about how the proceeds will be split (Mayweather apparently rents the venue from the MGM, selling the tickets himself, rather than just settling on a site fee). Tons of other important points are in flux, yet "all Floyd needs to do is sign" a non-existent deal. lol

[TLC8]

man, i really don't like espinoza. it's guys like him and cotto's adviser/manager Gabby whatever-his-name-is that really irk me. they're always so negative when it comes to making these fights the fans want to see. so there's still negotiating to do: so what? finish it up and give the fans a bit of hope in the meantime. it's like these divas want to feel all empowered and special because they can deliver bad news. they're both class-A dweebs

Espinoza is a real weasel and his days are numbered when final numbers come thru how much SHO got crushed giving Floyd $200M with declining PPV number since the Canelo fight.

On another note, Oscar JUST announced the Cotto-Canelo deal is OFF the table now, due to Cotto & Company missing negotiating deadlines for the 5th Phukkin Time!!! Sergio Martinez was right when he said Cotto has become a real Diva late in his career, overly difficult to negotiate a fight with; even after you give in to all his demands. What a ****** phukk. Now Cotto can go fight a smaller Tim Bradley for half the money of a Canelo fight. Just robbed Boxing, the Mexican/Puerto Rican fan base of an epic fight that Cotto knows he couldn't beat A bigger, stronger, younger Saul Canelo Alvarez hence why he stalled and wouldn't sign. Phukk Cotto. Now Canelo can go land an epic fight with Gennady. Tired of these divas in Boxing. Just like Marquez, just like Floyd. Don't let anything but fear get in the way of making a Super Fight happen like the legends before them did: Ali, Tyson, Holyfield, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Benitez, Pryor, Arguello, Chavez Sr., Oscar, Mosley, Hopkins, Pacquiao.

[wlliam]

Yes really, 8 times. 8 separate domestic disputes. That's alarming.

EDIT: I stand corrected, 7 times against 5 different women.

To be fair, Floyd beats his hoes and you beat your *** to Bob-screwing-Pac pics. Floyd and yourself should ease up on the beatings