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  • cuzzlo
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    #31
    These Pac Fans are loony..the litmus test in a way for Manny's camp and their bravado was Shane Mosley. After the KO destruction of the much vaunted Margarito by a resurgent Shane no one wanted to him. Manny and Roach were no where to be seen, sort of like a Sheriff that happened to be out of town and then away on sick leave when Django came to town. Mosley taunted Floyd for the fight, even intimidated and harassed him as part of the Golden Boy set up, with Bhop adding to the fire and making it almost a Black Pride Hearns/Leonard type of affair. Yet again Roach and Pac were as quiet as a duct taped librarian.

    Floyd took shots in that fight early that would have aired out the block and extinguished the mighty Pac in my opinion considering the Marquez KO, but we can dispute that. Manny and Roach finally call for Shane once Floyd proved Shane's age caught him.Before this Shane was feared and avoided, HUGE PROPS TO MOSLEY!!! Mosley also destroyed Margacheato and Vargas, the former of which Pac fought again once the coast was clear.

    Amir Khan, in post-fight commentary on Box Nation, plus many fans thought Pac lost the 3rd fight with Marquez too. So we have to draw the line at the hype and aura of invincibility surrounding Manny. He is a legitimate threat as a Southpaw to Floyd but is not Mike Tyson to Larry Holmes, so enough already!!!

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    • Furn
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      #32
      Floyds main claim to fame is that zero and that no one could beat him.

      Pacs is the 8 titles in different divisions and having an amazing rise through the boxing world beating guys someone his size had no right to.

      Now Pac still has that without a Floyd fight.

      Floyd may still have his zero but when you never faced the clear next best guy in the sport despite him being in the same division for years it takes alot of that gloss off that zero.

      Its like an NFL team going unbeaten all year but then not playing the superbowl.

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      • cuzzlo
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        #33
        Originally posted by Furn
        Floyds main claim to fame is that zero and that no one could beat him.

        Pacs is the 8 titles in different divisions and having an amazing rise through the boxing world beating guys someone his size had no right to.

        Now Pac still has that without a Floyd fight.

        Floyd may still have his zero but when you never faced the clear next best guy in the sport despite him being in the same division for years it takes alot of that gloss off that zero.

        Its like an NFL team going unbeaten all year but then not playing the superbowl.
        I ear that, but fights with Mosley and Margarito were not made by Roach and co, let alone called for until Floyd defused Mosley, who in turn defused Margarito and exposed him, sort of like the man who beat the man is the man. Margacheato was the Bogeyman of the division, alongside another much feared fighter in Paul Williams b4 Paul's accident.. Floyd, albeit under duress took the Shane fight, yet again Manny never lassoed Shane or mentioned his name and his often repeted words...It is up to my promoter.

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        • texasboi15
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          #34
          Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
          Maidana and Canelo are more dangerous than Bradley, Rios, Algieri.
          Absolutely but Bradley's a bad mufcka.

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          • MisanthropicNY
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            #35
            Mayweather doesn't need because historians will say Manny should have agreed to the blood testing and now I think people are starting to realize that Koncz and Arum are trying to avoid this fight...

            Koncz and Arum may also be in collusion to violate the M. Ali act....

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            • MisanthropicNY
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              #36
              Originally posted by texasboi15
              Absolutely but Bradley's a bad mufcka.
              LOL ask Alexander if Maidana is more dangerous than Bradley...

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                #37
                Originally posted by texasboi15
                Absolutely but Bradley's a bad mufcka.
                Pacquiao would KO Maidana in 6... J. Lopez was beating Maidana for most of that fight...

                Just because Maidana beat Mayweather in the first fight doesn't mean he's more dangerous than Bradley...

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                • MisanthropicNY
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by texasboi15
                  Absolutely but Bradley's a bad mufcka.
                  Margarito was more dangerous than all of those mofos and Mayweather ducked him for Baldomir and Overhyped Judah

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by cuzzlo
                    These Pac Fans are loony..the litmus test in a way for Manny's camp and their bravado was Shane Mosley. After the KO destruction of the much vaunted Margarito by a resurgent Shane no one wanted to him. Manny and Roach were no where to be seen, sort of like a Sheriff that happened to be out of town and then away on sick leave when Django came to town. Mosley taunted Floyd for the fight, even intimidated and harassed him as part of the Golden Boy set up, with Bhop adding to the fire and making it almost a Black Pride Hearns/Leonard type of affair. Yet again Roach and Pac were as quiet as a duct taped librarian.

                    Floyd took shots in that fight early that would have aired out the block and extinguished the mighty Pac in my opinion considering the Marquez KO, but we can dispute that. Manny and Roach finally call for Shane once Floyd proved Shane's age caught him.Before this Shane was feared and avoided, HUGE PROPS TO MOSLEY!!! Mosley also destroyed Margacheato and Vargas, the former of which Pac fought again once the coast was clear.

                    Amir Khan, in post-fight commentary on Box Nation, plus many fans thought Pac lost the 3rd fight with Marquez too. So we have to draw the line at the hype and aura of invincibility surrounding Manny. He is a legitimate threat as a Southpaw to Floyd but is not Mike Tyson to Larry Holmes, so enough already!!!
                    Bottom line is that they need to fight each other while they are still number one and two pound for pound to determine who is truly the best of this era. Floyd cannot claim he is the best of all time let alone the best of this era until he faces the other perceived best in this era. They fight in the same weight class so thre is no excuse. I hope everyone at the wbc conference shamed him which I'm sure they did because mike Tyson, sugar ray Leonard, muhammed alot and other greats have all been calling for Floyd to fight Manny and stop ducking. Mike Tyson is one of the most vocal about saying Floyd is scared.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by MisanthropicNY
                      Margarito was more dangerous than all of those mofos and Mayweather ducked him for Baldomir and Overhyped Judah
                      Lets not forget it was widely perceived that mayweather retired for those two years in order to duck cotto while he was one of the hardest mofos

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