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  • Arthur Daley
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    #21
    I haven't bothered reading any of the replies to the article but I presume the Brittards are boiling with rage frantically bashing their keyboard in a fit of anger in reply to it leaving themselves on the verge of a heart attack.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Arthur Daley
      I haven't bothered reading any of the replies to the article but I presume the Brittards are boiling with rage frantically bashing their keyboard in a fit of anger in reply to it leaving themselves on the verge of a heart attack.
      Why would an American giving a Ukrainian a back handed complement result in someone from Britain getting angry?

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        #23
        Holyfield definitely isn't as dumb as the average boxing scene poster........ Then again who is?

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          #24
          Originally posted by - Ram Raid -
          Why would an American giving a Ukrainian a back handed complement result in someone from Britain getting angry?
          Because we all know the reason people become obsessed with a certain "golden era" is because whatever demographic they cheer for had champions back then. Hence UK pseudo-nationalists on NSB deriding all post-1990s heavyweights.

          It's no big secret. Americans do the same thing with the 1970s.

          Some day when the Eastern Euro countries start to go soft and boxers come primarily from developing countries in Africa, you will probably have a bunch of butthurt Russian and Ukrainian accountants reminiscing about the golden right-now age.

          Hopefully someone will be there to carry on the tradition of shooting down their delusions and pointing out that every era has had lucky slobs and bad fights you can nitpick, but that the top fighters have consistently improved.
          Last edited by ////; 01-05-2015, 08:01 AM.

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          • Arthur Daley
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            #25
            Originally posted by - Ram Raid -
            Why would an American giving a Ukrainian a back handed complement result in someone from Britain getting angry?
            I know. They're a bit odd aren't they?

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              #26
              Originally posted by 80sFighter
              Because we all know the reason people become obsessed with a certain "golden era" is because whatever demographic they cheer for had champions back then. Hence UK pseudo-nationalists on NSB deriding all post-1990s heavyweights.

              It's no big secret. Americans do the same thing with the 1970s.

              Some day when the Eastern Euro countries start to go soft and boxers come primarily from developing countries in Africa, you will probably have a bunch of butthurt Russian and Ukrainian accountants reminiscing about the golden right-now age.

              Hopefully someone will be there to carry on the tradition of shooting down their delusions and pointing out that every era has had lucky slobs and bad fights you can nitpick, but that the top fighters have consistently improved.
              Entertaining post but I can't say that I agree with your premise that 70's and 90's era heavyweights are respected due to nationalism. Nor would I agree that there has been consistent improvement. That's not the pattern that the heavyweight division follows and it never has done. It's more a series of peaks and troughs.

              At the moment it's so low that the universally recognised champion is lauded for showing that he can throw a left hook-push at a stationary target rather than his usual jab-hold-lean, occasional right cross. Joe Louis was five times the boxer that Wladimir is and he fought in the 1930's.
              Last edited by - Ram Raid -; 01-05-2015, 08:51 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Arthur Daley
                I know. They're a bit odd aren't they?
                Not when you read their actual replies but I guess it's easy to assume so when you don't bother.

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                • Simurgh
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                  #28
                  they would have been on pair with the top guys.

                  I dont need to speculate - I watched lewis-vitali fight.. it was lewis's hardest fight. I dont buy unmotivated, heaviest lewis..

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                    #29
                    they would have been on pair with the top guys.

                    I dont need to speculate - I watched lewis-vitali fight.. it was lewis's hardest fight. I dont buy unmotivated, heaviest lewis..

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                      #30
                      Stopped, not knocked out. There's a difference. And to somehow make them out to be the same fighter is naive. Vitali, barring injury would have dominated the field in the 90's. Wladimir would too as long as he employed his current style from day 1.

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