Comments Thread For: HBO's Lampley Fires Off, Shoots Deep on Al Haymon

[Doctor_Tenma]

I can't front. Since Floyd Mayweather got that big fight with Oscar and made all of them millions every young up and coming fighter thinks that they can just go straight to the pot of gold without any risks. There are really next to no fights where you say "Wow this is going to be a great fight" Lucas Vs Garcia was one of the few along with Lara vs Canelo but Lara stunk it up a lil. Haymon and Arum come from very educated backgrounds and have extensive business sense and knowledge which they use to maximize profits without taking such much risks. Broner should have fought Mathysse for sure. But Lampley is a little bit of a hypocrite because Bob Arum has been doing precisely the same.

It's like how Lampley made a segment on Marquez possibly using steroids after knocking out Pacquiao but not saying anything about Pacquiao refusing random blood tests. My opinion is my own and do believe the sport of boxing does not have the fans best interest at heart. We're all $ signs to these business people. Fans are more worried about how much fighters will get paid or what they should get instead of voicing our opinions and taking it to these big wigs who control the sport.

That's my biggest issue with the sport and it's sad because 147 is stacked with talent, you can even include some of the good 140s on that list as well.

[lefthook2daliva]

Because this kind of hypocrisy is why the sport is where it is: people turning a blind eye because they like the messenger.

It deserves to be mentioned because Lampley will go on to endorse people getting ****ed by the same stick he is chastising.

No. The sport is where it is and appears to be continuing down this road because the best increasingly avoid the best.

If Haymon has the biggest stable in the history of the sport, it's a much bigger problem than the hypocrisy of a commentator and deserves more attention.

Yes, sure other promoters have protected their fighters to one degree or another and that was fcked up. They started this fcked up ball rolling. Now Arum is at the end of his career. Haymon is fairly recent in boxing and is seemingly making that policy his cornerstone and if he's gonna' team up with Schafer, they potentially could run the sport to a degree yet unseen (or not? would be happy to entertain other ideas?). The endgame is his guys wring money out of the fans for another generation of fighters or two, but eventually they kill the golden goose and boxing becomes truly a niche sport.

Would like to hear Haymon's side of the story, however.

Anyway, Lampley's hypocrisy is stepping on a Lego. The continuation and expansion of the best avoiding the best is cancer.

At some point I'm gonna' stop spending my money. How about you?

[al-Xander]

Haymon needs at least 3 networks to accommodate all these 130 fighters in his stable. Otherwise, families of fighters in this large stable will have a very hungry new year. With only 1.5 card for every 2 months, Showtime alone can't provide dates for all these fighters of his.

Santa Haymon Claus has probably already made a list which nobody will fight which Haymon fighter for 2015. Thurman was supposed to KO Bundu. Instead, Bundu made him run. And I think Bundu will be pitted against either Alexander or Porter, two dispensable Haymon fighters. I could almost smell it.

[GRUSTLER]

This post downright sucks all the way around. Manny fought Chris algieri who is the number 3 ranked light welterweight. That is a higher ranking than Adrien broker who is at number 6. If it were Manny vs broker nobody would have complained but since he was not as known people complain. Also provodnikov didn't even fight Castillo on HBO lol HBO wouldn't dare show that kind of fight like ShowTime did with salka, HBO has standards that's why they cleaned house in the ratings. Also Mauricio Herrera isn't a haymon fighter he is a golden boy fighter, and what dies HBO have to do with a judges decision? The second best top rank fighter Tim Bradley got robbed in the same card. Every single point you made is faulty and ******ed.

Just the fact that you are trying to justify Manny Pacquiao fighting Chris Algieri just shows how incredibly bias you are because even Freddie Roach said Algieri had no reason being in the ring with Manny Pacquiao.

[Nightfall]

Haymon needs at least 3 networks to accommodate all these 130 fighters in his stable. Otherwise, families of fighters in this large stable will have a very hungry new year. With only 1.5 card for every 2 months, Showtime alone can't provide dates for all these fighters of his.

he'll manage. you just worry about pacquiao and why he can't sell. expecially in his own asian market. he's fights with Rios and the karate kid barely made 300.000. 2/3's of the buys came from the U.S. and mayweather haters.

[GRUSTLER]

I think people are too critical of Haymon rather than the fighters he manages

Its been revealed Haymon approaches a fighter and asks "can u beat this person" and if the fighter says "no" the fight does not get made

So who is to blame the fighter or Haymon?

Haymon cant force a fighter to fight a fight, his job is to keep his fighter happy and make them money

If Danny Garcia wanted to fight Lucas again, that fight would get made. Haymon has no control over DG, in essence Haymon is just a servant

If Floyd doesnt want to fight Khan, the fight will not be made..Haymon will ask Floyd "can u beat Khan" and Floyd will say "no" and then they will look for someone Floyd thinks he can beat, such as Danny Garcia

But Floyd would and could beat Khan. I am just disappointed across the board because it is too much of a business and in essence people can't really blame Haymon or Arum because the fighters have agents, managers, advisers and it is basically up to the fighter to say what he wants to do. Sure we blame Arum for Floyd/Pacquiao and I believe Arum don't want to make it due to personal reasons where he doesn't care about the money but Manny Pacquiao is the one who is supposed to make Arum get the fight. Danny Garcia is a big disappointed because he is being guided away from risks. Haymon made Matthysse/Garcia because both guys wanted it. If he didn't want his best fighters to fight then he would not have made it. These fighters just have it instilled in their brains that having a loss on their records hurts their value. I believe this to be true.

[maguirre]

he'll manage. you just worry about pacquiao and why he can't sell. expecially in his own asian market. he's fights with Rios and the karate kid barely made 300.000. 2/3's of the buys came from the U.S. and mayweather haters.

Has Showtime released PPV numbers for Guerrero, Maidana 1 and 2, yet? CBS is losing millions with their TBE, fake PPV star of theirs. And he's still ducking the biggest money fight of the century. Keep on d1ckriding. TBE is already established as a fraud. Keep on fooling yourselves.

[Porter's Dad]

Rather than shift the narrative to "well, what about Arum too?", our beloved TMT crew should focus on what Lampley is saying. I mean, is he wrong about a single thing in what he says? Forget Arum, focus on Haymon for a second.

Haymon has practically all the talent at 140-147 and yet can't seemingly make a decent fight. You got fighters sharing slots on a card with the promise of a fight that never happens (Garcia/Peterson). It is absolutely pathetic. HBO are still recovering from that period where Haymon was controlling everything (the Andre Berto as a Headliner years) and nearly ran them into the ground.

At that time, Showtime were regularly putting on amazing fights. I mean, they made the Super 6, FFS. Now? They're paying Adonis $1.5m for a tune-up Friday night fight. It's history repeating itself, except even worse, as now Haymon has half of boxing - and all these fighters barely fight, and so he shoves them all on one unsatisfying undercard to make sure they get paid. These fighters thinking they're making bank cos they're getting overpaid for one fight - but Uncle Al takes a cut of that, then benches them to bring out the next set of his fighters to take off the shelf for another average card. Meanwhile, these guys who are babied along, are suddenly forced into big fights they are wholly unprepared for, ie Gary Russell Jr and Wilder. When Deontay gets knocked out, he can thank Al Haymon for matching him so poorly and leaving him so completely unprepared for a good heavyweight like Stiverne.

Al Haymon is fast becoming a disaster for boxing fans.

[R_Walken]

Lampleys a clown and is a HBO puppet, he seems to being going out of his way to be a jack off and at this point everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt that goes for his shows and commentating fights , he's a douche and just not authentic.

Only Celebrity or public figure That I've met in real life and talked shi..t too he just rubs me the wrong way

[Hype job]

Rather than shift the narrative to "well, what about Arum too?", our beloved TMT crew should focus on what Lampley is saying. I mean, is he wrong about a single thing in what he says? Forget Arum, focus on Haymon for a second.

Haymon has practically all the talent at 140-147 and yet can't seemingly make a decent fight. You got fighters sharing slots on a card with the promise of a fight that never happens (Garcia/Peterson). It is absolutely pathetic. HBO are still recovering from that period where Haymon was controlling everything (the Andre Berto as a Headliner years) and nearly ran them into the ground.

At that time, Showtime were regularly putting on amazing fights. I mean, they made the Super 6, FFS. Now? They're paying Adonis $1.5m for a tune-up Friday night fight. It's history repeating itself, except even worse, as now Haymon has half of boxing - and all these fighters barely fight, and so he shoves them all on one unsatisfying undercard to make sure they get paid. These fighters thinking they're making bank cos they're getting overpaid for one fight - but Uncle Al takes a cut of that, then benches them to bring out the next set of his fighters to take off the shelf for another average card. Meanwhile, these guys who are babied along, are suddenly forced into big fights they are wholly unprepared for, ie Gary Russell Jr and Wilder. When Deontay gets knocked out, he can thank Al Haymon for matching him so poorly and leaving him so completely unprepared for a good heavyweight like Stiverne.

Al Haymon is fast becoming a disaster for boxing fans.

Don't you know... If you criticize Haymon you're a racist who hates to see a brotha succeed in the business world.