Comments Thread For: HBO's Lampley Fires Off, Shoots Deep on Al Haymon

[MC Hammer]

Why do people say Arum builds up fighters in easy fights? Floyd did all of his fights except for Oscar under Arum and people, especially his fans, who discredit Arum for doing that are discrediting the best part of Floyds career. Cotto had tough fights when he needed them, Floyd did, look at what Bradley has gone through under him, Rios and so many other fighters he's promoted. Top Rank knows how to build fighters.

No one is saying that you don't need tune-ups or just stay busy fights but that shouldn't be all your fights which is what Haymon does. Chavez had an easy road and he got put in his place by Martinez... Canelo had an easy road and the he got put in his place by Floyd. This is nothing but guys fighting each other for a shot at Floyd, one day someone will win and Haymon will continue the cycle. NBC will dump them eventually and who knows what Haymon will do then. HBO told him to **** off and somehow, though Haymon has control over all possible boxing on Showtime, it isn't good enough. He'll wear it his welcome and end up starting a business in something else and fail once more.

IDK what your definition of fail is, but Haymon in the shadows ran the #1 promotional outfit in boxing, and is consensus the most powerful man in the sport with the most fighters.

[Francis M.]

IDK what your definition of fail is, but Haymon in the shadows ran the #1 promotional outfit in boxing, and is consensus the most powerful man in the sport with the most fighters.

I guess haymon is the most powerful man in boxing by the size of his stable. I'm pretty sure haymon will wear out his welcome with Showtime just as he did with HBO.

[Nightfall]

But people aren't tuning in those numbers to admire his great defensive style. Many tune in hoping this will be the fight he shows his age or gets caught and loses.
People paid to see guys like Tyson, Pacquaio, ODL and others because they had a crowd pleasing style. Floyd doesn't have that in the ring but he knows how to play the game outside of the ring and get people to tune in to see if someone can shut his mouth.

whose paying to see pacquiao fight? this guy can't even sell in his own asian market. barely 300.000 PPV's aganst rios and the same against the karate kid. 2/3's of those sells were from the U.S.and mayweather haters. those are reasons why pacquiao is begging.

[djt117]

would you have your same response had he used arum's name instead of haymon's ? because lampley's complaint is exactly what Arums does. just saying.

It is similar, but it's not the same.

At some point Arum ceases "building a guy up" and takes the reins off (see Chavez Jr. vs. Martinez, Cotto at 140-147, Donaire was matched fairly competitive for a long time then got really served up a tough fight vs. Rigo) ... examples abound.

Haymon won't match any of his top fighters against top fighters from rival promotions but he is also loath to match his own top stars against each other (Matthysse vs. Garcia is the only notable exception)

[mathed]

Broner is a 3 weight champion and has beaten more champions and better fighters than Algerie. He's a much more established fighter.

You can complain about Garcia/Salka is only one fight. GGG's whole career has been mismatches Broadcast in the US by HBO

Come on man. Broner was only able to really beat guys that were much, much smaller than he is. He weighs 170 when he isn't training and he was swatting dudes who probably weigh 150 tops when not training. When he moved up, he looked drastically less impressive. Algieri would box circles around Broner even as pedestrian as he is. It's all smoke and mirrors, that's why Broner is down at 140 again, to help restore some of that luster that duped fans to begin with.

[Nightfall]

It is similar, but it's not the same.

At some point Arum ceases "building a guy up" and takes the reins off (see Chavez Jr. vs. Martinez, Cotto at 140-147, Donaire was matched fairly competitive for a long time then got really served up a tough fight vs. Rigo) ... examples abound.

Haymon won't match any of his top fighters against top fighters from rival promotions but he is also loath to match his own top stars against each other (Matthysse vs. Garcia is the only notable exception)

Haymon will match them. remember the fighter has a say so too.haymon is more interested in the fighters being compensated in this deadly sport. if the fighters say that they've had enough of these networks and promoters robbing them of money. then they won't fight and will walk away. then this sport is doomed.i totally agree what Haymon is doing.eventually the guys will fight. but the long term health is devastating and is being addressed financually by haymon.

[JohnnyRebel]

Haymon is no different than Arum. When they are ready to cash out their fighters or there is a huge fight then they put them with good competition.

All they do is show case their fighters. If this continues he will put boxing into a funk again

Jim wouldn't dare mention or align Al Haymon with Bob Arum though. Garcia vs Salka on normal Showtime is right on par with Pacquiao vs Algieri on PPV. Both HBO and Showtime didn't have too great of a schedule this year. HBO had Zhou Shiming headline a card FFS! Atleast Al Haymon pays his fighters and they don't sue or talk **** about him. HBO seems butt hurt that most of all the top talent will not be on their network. It would be funny if Mayweather vs Pacquiao were to happen with SHO&HBO working together but Lampley was banned from the broadcast for talking shit all the time. Here's what I think of Lampley"peeleft:.

[djt117]

Haymon will match them. remember the fighter has a say so too.haymon is more interested in the fighters being compensated in this deadly sport. if the fighters say that they've had enough of these networks and promoters robbing them of money. then they won't fight and will walk away. then this sport is doomed.i totally agree what Haymon is doing.eventually the guys will fight. but the long term health is devastating and is being addressed financually by haymon.

You say he will match them. OK, fine to take that on faith but it hasn't happened yet. When it does I'll gladly say Al is doing great by the sport. Until then I'm gonna be skeptical.

[QballLobo]

whose paying to see pacquiao fight? this guy can't even sell in his own asian market. barely 300.000 PPV's aganst rios and the same against the karate kid. 2/3's of those sells were from the U.S.and mayweather haters. those are reasons why pacquiao is begging.

Last time I checked Pacquiao hasn't had a PPV do 0 buys, so yes people are paying to see Pacquiao.

[Deeznuts]

What did Lampley say that was off? Everything he said was true. Haymon has a pond full of ducks in his stable which is good for his fighters but terrible for the sport