who's the only fighter in this era to defeat 13 ring mag rated fighters in a row

[Rath]

"Shane came to the gym twice to ask me to let him fight Manny. I told him no both times, and both times for the same two reasons: First, there isn't enough money there, and second, you're too good a fighter." - Freddie Roach

is it any wonder to you that roach downplays all of Pac's achievement?

check all roach's remark on all Pac's opponents.

[The Gambler1981]

people still pretending mosley was good when floyd beat him? and if the raiders beat the seawhawks and then the broncos beat the raiders that would prove they were the best right? putting all your stock in one game/fight etc...is pretty foolish. a season/mulltiple fights over time tell the truth. mosley was crap before and after marg. did you even watch the floyd fight? the word zombie comes to mind. he had a good win for whatever reason: good style matchup, marg drained, handwraps, etc...doesn't mean he was a good overall fighter at that time. bradley and cotto when pac beat them were good overall fighters. they weren't coming off one good win while looking like sh-it before and after. if you can't see the difference you must be a floyd fan lol

Are there like 20 excuses in that paragraph? That is not misleading at all right?

[Hype job]

people still pretending mosley was good when floyd beat him? and if the raiders beat the seawhawks and then the broncos beat the raiders that would prove the broncos were the best right? putting all your stock in one game/fight etc...is pretty foolish. a season/multiple fights over time reveal the truth. mosley was crap before and after marg. did you even watch the floyd fight? the word zombie comes to mind. he had a good win for whatever reason: good style matchup, marg drained, handwraps, etc...doesn't mean he was a good overall fighter at that time. bradley and cotto when pac beat them were good overall fighters. they weren't coming off one good win while looking like sh-it before and after. if you can't see the difference you must be a floyd fan lol

LMFAO exactly these idiots think Mosley was a prime beast when Floyd beat him, he had a 1.5 year layoff, when Pac fought him and knocked him down and had him doing laps around the ring all of a sudden he was shot to ****, but a prime beast when Floyd fought him.

[Robbie Barrett]

LMFAO exactly these idiots think Mosley was a prime beast when Floyd beat him, he had a 1.5 year layoff, when Pac fought him and knocked him down and had him doing laps around the ring all of a sudden he was shot to ****, but a prime beast when Floyd fought him.

Mosley's name gets mentioned because he was the 147 champion and Pacquiao had the chance to fight him and ducked the fight for Clottey. Mayweather took the fight Pacquiao ducked.

[therealpugilist]

Mosley's name gets mentioned because he was the 147 champion and Pacquiao had the chance to fight him and ducked the fight for Clottey. Mayweather took the fight Pacquiao ducked.

ding, ding, ding!!!!

they will just ignore the facts, those of us that actually followed the sport then knew Mosley was trying to get that fight bad, especially when the Berto fight fell through

[SkillspayBills]

Man I have seen this Manny Floyd haters get owned in a thread........actually there was another good thread a few days ago. But Boy howdy FACTS tedn to trump all that opinionated bullcrap every time..

[daggum]

Are there like 20 excuses in that paragraph? That is not misleading at all right?

there are no excuses. just my viewpoint that proving yourself over several fights is worth more than 1 win especially when styles make fights. mosley was done and that's my opinion. a win over a done mosley isn't as good as a win over prime cotto or bradley.

[The Gambler1981]

there are no excuses. just my viewpoint that proving yourself over several fights is worth more than 1 win especially when styles make fights. mosley was done and that's my opinion. a win over a done mosley isn't as good as a win over prime cotto or bradley.

Floyd has proven himself over his whole career, Mosley is just one small part~ I always thought Floyd would beat up on Mosley because Mosley folds up against better boxers than he and he can't holds Floyd's jock. Dude was still a real fighter though.

You do that for every Floyd fight making reason after reason for every damn fight. If that was just a one fight thing whatever but you know damn well that is not the case.

Bradley are you kidding me? That is the definition of a good style match-up for Manny be consistant~ and so was Cotto.

Real question though what fighters do you actually have respect for because you don't apply things evenly it seems~ which brings us to my main issue with you. Intellectual dishonesty, you aren't an idiot so you should be seeing that.

[daggum]

Floyd has proven himself over his whole career, Mosley is just one small part~ I always thought Floyd would beat up on Mosley because Mosley folds up against better boxers than he and he can't holds Floyd's jock. Dude was still a real fighter though.

You do that for every Floyd fight making reason after reason for every damn fight. If that was just a one fight thing whatever but you know damn well that is not the case.

Bradley are you kidding me? That is the definition of a good style match-up for Manny be consistant~ and so was Cotto.

Real question though what fighters do you actually have respect for because you don't apply things evenly it seems~ which brings us to my main issue with you. Intellectual dishonesty, you aren't an idiot so you should be seeing that.

well i was talking about style matchups when it came to mosley-margarito. old shot fighter with power against guy who keeps coming forward which allowed mosley to land his power over and over. that one fight was a mirage that hid mosley's true status as a washed up fighter. i dont see why floyd fans try to pretend thats a great win when its clearly not. cotto and bradley no matter if you think they are good style matchups or not are still better wins.

[The Gambler1981]

well i was talking about style matchups when it came to mosley-margarito. old shot fighter with power against guy who keeps coming forward which allowed mosley to land his power over and over. that one fight was a mirage that hid mosley's true status as a washed up fighter. i dont see why floyd fans try to pretend thats a great win when its clearly not. cotto and bradley no matter if you think they are good style matchups or not are still better wins.

That was a good match-up for Mosley no denying that. It is like a lot of his other wins, but those sort of wins add up over time. you know how you said you should judge things over time, while Floyd has done very well over time at the top of the sport. So where is your respect for that?

They are about the same, really good wins against top guys but not as great as some make them out to be.