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  • #71
    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
    Yeah, he is fighting top ten guys without ever fighting the top 1, or 2 contenders..


    Sorry floyd fans but Maidana, ghost, Ortiz, hatton, marquez aren't true top contenders..they may be ranked but never were considered 1 or 2 ranked contender.. Guys like margarito, cotto, williams, manny, have been the top contender over the years
    Mosely is about the only top welter floyd faced, besides Judah and baldomir who shared the lineal title in 2006
    The only top rated WW many has beat was Cotto. Let's be serious Bradley has never beat a WW unless you call that farce decision a win Marquez isn't one Provo and def not a old Casamayor.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by vorgaphe View Post
      I'm in no way biased, I have no vested interest in either fighter as I'm British. Pacquiao may not have dominated any single division, but that is not the only mark of greatness. I agree with you that Oscar was shot, as was Mosely and there is also a case that Margarito was well past it. However, his win(s) over Bradley are extremely impressive as are the wins over Hatton (yes I know Floyd also beat him but it is as much the manner of the victory), Clottey (a hugely underrated fighter) and his win in Marquez III. Also the victories over Barrera and Morales are arguably better wins than anything Floyd has done.

      Also, you cannot criticize Pacquiao for the catch weight against Cotto without doing to same to Floyd in the Alvarez fight.
      Why people keep bringing up the Barrera and Morales when speaking of Manny? The belief surrounding the Barrera's fight is that he shouldn't have taken the fight, because prior, the man had metal plate put in his skull. As for Morales, he was shot to pieces when he fought Manny the first time, and worse the second time. Morales was outclassed by Raheem prior to the Pac's rematch; infact, in the Raheem's fight the commentators were asking for Morales to hang them up.

      To be fair, we thought Pac was shot in Diaz's fight to the point where HBO crew were blaming it on his many "wars". However, the instance they brought in Ariza, he seem to have had a resurgence in his fight game. Also, I think this is where the su****ion comes from. But, I am not going to play naïve and pretend like most elite athletes, let alone boxers, are innocent. Heck, I do believe Mayweather himself might be guilty. My point is that everyone's career can be picked apart if one wants to. No point in playing that game against your non-favorite fighters. Just be objective. And if you are indeed objective, you will know Manny would have been deemed "tbe" if he had Mayweathers resume and undefeated record based on the fact that ppl love to love him more than they do Mayweather.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by megas30 View Post
        Why people keep bringing up the Barrera and Morales when speaking of Manny? The belief surrounding the Barrera's fight is that he shouldn't have taken the fight, because prior, the man had metal plate put in his skull. As for Morales, he was shot to pieces when he fought Manny the first time, and worse the second time. Morales was outclassed by Raheem prior to the Pac's rematch; infact, in the Raheem's fight the commentators were asking for Morales to hang them up.

        To be fair, we thought Pac was shot in Diaz's fight to the point where HBO crew were blaming it on his many "wars". However, the instance they brought in Ariza, he seem to have had a resurgence in his fight game. Also, I think this is where the su****ion comes from. But, I am not going to play naïve and pretend like most elite athletes, let alone boxers, are innocent. Heck, I do believe Mayweather himself might be guilty. My point is that everyone's career can be picked apart if one wants to. No point in playing that game against your non-favorite fighters. Just be objective. And if you are indeed objective, you will know Manny would have been deemed "tbe" if he had Mayweathers resume and undefeated record based on the fact that ppl love to love him more than they do Mayweather.
        He looked good against Diaz wtf are you on about? And maybe Morales had an off day against Rahim? that ever crossed your mind? You talking ****e Morales and Barrera are better than anyone on Floyd's resume p4p.

        If Manny had Floyd's resume he would be nowhere near what he is today and if Floyd had Manny's you would worship him like you worship Floyd due to your typical Flowmo race bias.

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        • #74
          Originally posted by dc3383 View Post
          The only top rated WW many has beat was Cotto. Let's be serious Bradley has never beat a WW unless you call that farce decision a win Marquez isn't one Provo and def not a old Casamayor.
          Cotto and clottey were top welters, who campaigned there for a long time..

          Cotto, clottey, and a 150 margarito were top welters from 07-10


          I'm not trying to take sides or turn this into another floyd/manny debate but

          Clottey, margs, cotto were top welters

          And though they aren't true welters marquez, Bradley >>>>Ortiz,ghost,marcos

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
            Cotto and clottey were top welters, who campaigned there for a long time..

            Cotto, clottey, and a 150 margarito were top welters from 07-10


            I'm not trying to take sides or turn this into another floyd/manny debate but

            Clottey, margs, cotto were top welters

            And though they aren't true welters marquez, Bradley >>>>Ortiz,ghost,marcos
            These guys are ridiculous, watch them nitpick and say ''Margs was at light middleweight doe'' doesn't negate he fought the same Margs (past prime but still) that many other welterweights faced, that's basically the equivalent of beating a ''welterweight'' Margarito as he will make the weight easier.

            These guys are just black hebrew israelite types they have a blatant race bias and have no objective way of debating.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
              Cotto and clottey were top welters, who campaigned there for a long time..

              Cotto, clottey, and a 150 margarito were top welters from 07-10


              I'm not trying to take sides or turn this into another floyd/manny debate but

              Clottey, margs, cotto were top welters

              And though they aren't true welters marquez, Bradley >>>>Ortiz,ghost,marcos
              Another guy acting like Floyd didn't beat Marquez.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Vilicious86 View Post
                Another guy acting like Floyd didn't beat Marquez.
                No, I'm not acting like anything... He beat marquez.. He dominated him.

                I don't really look at that as a championship welter fight as floyd was coming off a 2 year layoff and marquez hadn't fougth at welter, and it was a catchweight.. It was more of a warm up fight for floyd..
                Same reason I didn't mention rios, algieri

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by straightleft View Post
                  Is a common knowledge Floyd only fights those slow moving come forward turles.
                  this ^^^^

                  the TRUTH!!!!

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                  • #79
                    As a novice boxing fan , i watched everything i could watch in Youtube on both fighters , and i think both are great and fun to watch , one is explosive and shows heart , the other is a master tactician and shows great ring IQ , i love both of them and thinks they are great , not sure what is the **** measuring contest , they both had great wins and great nights of boxing.
                    i hope they fight each other on a trilogy or at least 2 fights so this can be setteled once and for all (1 fight , the loser fans will have a bunch of execuses).
                    have a happy boxing day.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
                      I wonder why no replies....I guess yall already know who has
                      u got the wrong question dude...

                      it should be "what's the only fighter in this era to defeat 13 ring mag rated fighters in a row"

                      then i can answer you,... a chicken did that!!

                      if u still insist "who"
                      my answer is.. the coward, fraud, the woman-beater

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