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  • ADP02
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    #71
    Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
    Mayweather has but the real question is, how much of it was Maidana? If you watch the All Access they specifically planned on taking away Mayweather's offense, that planned worked for them successfully but Maidana's offense suffered as a result.
    Maidana' offense suffered? Take away a man's gloves doesn't help in that department. You don't have to take my word for it, your hero Floyd admits to that.

    Maidana also gasses out. That is why he had a more controlled offense in the 2nd fight but in my opinion, that back-fired.

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    • mathed
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      #72
      Look, Floyd used to maybe lose one rd a fight against top comp, the first Maidana fight was the only time I ever thought Floyd could have lost a fight. You can see it in the 24-7's and stuff, he doesn't take things as seriously as he used to when he was younger....I don't think it's necessarily him losing a couple steps but more so him losing dedication to the sport.

      Say what you want but I don't think he has it inside to beat Pac soundly right now. I think that Pac will want to prove a point against Floyd if they fight and I can see him seriously going for the KO. I am not so sure Floyd wants to risk taking that kind of damage and Pac is a better boxer than people give him credit for. He adapts very well and he will see what works for Floyd and eventually take that away. My guess is that Floyd knows that he might have to come up with some other kind of fighting strategy than what he would normally rely on against Pac.

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      • TrueBoxingFan23
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        #73
        Originally posted by jjsmyth87
        If mayweather can beat pacquiao which I highly doubt, that would by far be the biggest win on his resume. On the other hand if pacquiao beats duckweather which he most likely will, it will be the best win but he's got a couple close seconds and thirds I.e. Prime berrera and Morales. So what I'm trying to say is a win will do more for mayweathers legacy than it would do for pacquios. Oscar de la Hoya even said manmy will always get more respect because of all the wars hes been in.
        SMH! I think you got it backwards! Lol! When Floyd beat PAC! They will discredit him and say that he waited untill PAC was old! But if PAC beat Floyd, they will try to say that he is the best ever!

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        • TrueBoxingFan23
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          #74
          Originally posted by jjsmyth87
          Also a prime undefeated Tim Bradley which is a bigger win by itself than any on mayweathers resume
          OMG! You can't be serious! I'm a boxing fan! I enjoy watching Floyd and PAC! But people like you make me root against PAC! Y'all are so biased! You got to give credit where credit is due! Bradley can't even touch a prime Zab! Let alone Corrales! Hatton was a undefeated champion at the time! And you talking about Bradly who came out of his last fight with a tie a tennis ball in his mouth ball and golf ball under his eye! SMH, and I like Bradley!

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          • TrueBoxingFan23
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            #75
            Originally posted by twosweethooks
            First know this !! Jr's Age is a downhill slide, its coming Quicker than a few years ago, its like when he was in his prime he was at the pinnacle of the mountain, now its steeper as each day goes by, he hasn't fought since Sept and his next fight he says if May , many a moon and a steeper drop is happening day after day after day. The only way Jr can stop it and look better if he uses undetectable designer steriods and only for a year or two. Would I put it past him ?? NO !!! He has no conscience for right or wrong and will do any and everything to preserve his O.

            2ndly if Bradley is not the example of PRIME,,,,then you owe it to NSB to Name the PRIME WW ELITE that JR has beat over the past ten years that SURPASSES any of Pacs WW fights.

            waiting ,,,,,,,,NO SPIN MANG, hahahahhahaha ,,,,just the NAME please
            I hate to even respond to you, because you so ignorant! I don't even know if you real or not. You might be somebody to Stir the chats because the things you say are just biased and ******! But 154 Oscar is a better win! Canelo is a way better win than anybody PAC fought! Cotto at 154 is better than cotto at 144! Matter of fact, PAC hasn't fought that many people at 147! Most of the fights are at a catch weight !

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            • TrueBoxingFan23
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              #76
              Originally posted by Rath
              1.2.3 steps to the left and/or to the right is lateral movement. more than that is running.

              just like clinching/hugging is never going to be considered as sweet sciece
              I don't know if you watch Floyd fights a lot but he does make you miss while sitting in the pocket. Everybody talks about the shell but he has like 3 or 4 different styles which makes him so hard to beat. Trust me, he might not be the best ever which is another conversation, but he is the best pure boxer ever! Film just don't lie! True doctor and dean of boxing science!

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              • Francis M.
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                #77
                Floyd's best days in the ring are done..... He's even topped himself and became more boring with the excessive clinching....


                His best defense is now hand picking refs and making sure his opponents uses pillows....

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                • 12TRIBEsRiSe
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by mathed
                  Look, Floyd used to maybe lose one rd a fight against top comp, the first Maidana fight was the only time I ever thought Floyd could have lost a fight. You can see it in the 24-7's and stuff, he doesn't take things as seriously as he used to when he was younger....I don't think it's necessarily him losing a couple steps but more so him losing dedication to the sport.

                  Say what you want but I don't think he has it inside to beat Pac soundly right now. I think that Pac will want to prove a point against Floyd if they fight and I can see him seriously going for the KO. I am not so sure Floyd wants to risk taking that kind of damage and Pac is a better boxer than people give him credit for. He adapts very well and he will see what works for Floyd and eventually take that away. My guess is that Floyd knows that he might have to come up with some other kind of fighting strategy than what he would normally rely on against Pac.
                  pac man is a great fighter and will give floyd trouble... but getting hit with the same punch over a period of 12 rounds???? how is he this great adjuster?

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                  • 12TRIBEsRiSe
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by therealpugilist
                    So I guess Judah and Pacquaio were never elite at welterweight because they both had dec. and kayo losses at the weight by your estimation?


                    For the record bro....he lost to TSZYU @ 140 SO WHO IS REALLY TRYING TO CHANGE HISTORY?....HE WENT 1-1 WITH SPINKS BUT KO'ED HIM PRIOR TO LOSING TO BALDOMIR

                    HERE IS A HISTORY LESSON FOR YOUR ASS...

                    Since July of 05 Mayweather has fought and beat Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah, Baldomir, Ortiz, Maidana(2x), Mosley, DLH, COTTO, Hatton, Guerrero, Saul Alvarez, and Marquez

                    He defeated 12 top ten contenders in a row and 13 current/former world champions back to back...no one in this era has done that so if you think he is a cherrypicker or thinks he fights only people he thinks he can beat YOU ARE TROLLING AND DKSAB, well NEWSFLASH HE HAS BEEN A WORLD CHAMPION SINCE '98 HE THINKS HE CAN BEAT EVERYONE!!!
                    well damn... tell it like it t i iz

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                    • Francis M.
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe
                      pac man is a great fighter and will give floyd trouble... but getting hit with the same punch over a period of 12 rounds???? how is he this great adjuster?


                      Who and what are you talking about?

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