Comments Thread For: Bradley's Trainer: Mayweather's Ability Diminished A lot

[hectari]

Exactly these dudes overhype Bradley to make Pac look good. Few fighters in history have ever been top champions with limited power, the ones that do make it are exceptional breeds like Willie Pep, Bradley has like 30% KO%.

If Bradley fought Floyd you would say Floyd is fighting a slick brutha who si number 3 p4p how can yall hate on the man, but since Pac fought him and beat him Bradley is a bum, Floyd isnt a power puncher either so what are you on about Power?

[Rath]

Hatton comes to mind.

Yeah Hatton is a prime welter weight elite when Floyd fought him

[Rath]

Hes 38 years old, of course he is diminished.

But I dont see the dramatic difference between 2013 and now. Guerrero and Canelo boxed with floyd and fought his fight, everyone will look bad if they box with mayweather.

Maidana 1, mayweather elected to stay in the pocket and fight maidanas fight and still won. Everyone said he was past it and this and that, then he goes and fight his own fight in 2 using lateral movement and makes it look easy, then he is a chicken runner again blah blah blah.

1.2.3 steps to the left and/or to the right is lateral movement. more than that is running.

just like clinching/hugging is never going to be considered as sweet sciece

[Rath]

Mayweather has but the real question is, how much of it was Maidana? If you watch the All Access they specifically planned on taking away Mayweather's offense, that planned worked for them successfully but Maidana's offense suffered as a result.

According to Floyd All Access is a farce

[wlliam]

You're right Maidana did play a big part in it as well to be fair to him, he's got that come forward no bull**** style, no respect and roughs you up and hes good at it (hes also got better at applying effective pressure since his 140 days), maybe that's what threw Floyd off a bit too, the fact he got straight in there and had absolutely no respect for Mayweather.

I don't think Maidana come close to winning the fight like some claim on here, I don't even think he was near drawing - but he definitely gave Mayweather a harder time than most of his recent opponents.

If you watch floyds legs (no ****) in both fights, his mobility was better in the 1st, floyd qasnt able to get off his punches in the 2nd bcuz of constant movement-credited to maudanas constant pressure, if floyd wouldnt have moved Maidana would have had him against the ropes agai
In the 2nd bout, Floyd slipped in i think the 2nd round and thats an indication that his balance was off

[therealpugilist]

Zab judah was a prime elite top 5 welterweight when they fought and prior just lost a close Dec in an upset.......No matter how you try to spin things to support your position you can't change history....Bradley would not even be in mayweathers top 3 wins...its who you beat and when...hatton was an elite p4p type in his prime and also held the wba belt at ww, Castillo, corrales were in their prime and elite when he beat them...canelo is on par or some may think he is better than Bradley, genaro Hernandez who actually was a lineal champ unlike Bradley



Answer this question....how many fighters PAC beat that were ranked top ten @ welterweights when he beat them since 09? I will tell you...two which was a Mosley who was 1-1-1 in his last 3 fights showing major signs of slippage and Bradley

Mayweather on the other hand beat maidana 2x, Mosley after a huge win, Ortiz, Guerrero...all were top ten...Mosley was ranked number 1


In comparison Manny's comp the last 5 years for him to be ranked number one is wholly average to marginal

[theocdog]

Zab judah was a prime elite top 5 welterweight when they fought and prior just lost a close Dec in an upset.......No matter how you try to spin things to support your position you can't change history....Bradley would not even be in mayweathers top 3 wins...its who you beat and when...hatton was an elite p4p type in his prime and also held the wba belt at ww, Castillo, corrales were in their prime and elite when he beat them...canelo is on par or some may think he is better than Bradley, genaro Hernandez who actually was a lineal champ unlike Bradley



Answer this question....how many fighters PAC beat that were ranked top ten @ welterweights when he beat them since 09? I will tell you...two which was a Mosley who was 1-1-1 in his last 3 fights showing major signs of slippage and Bradley

Mayweather on the other hand beat maidana 2x, Mosley after a huge win, Ortiz, Guerrero...all were top ten...Mosley was ranked number 1


In comparison Manny's comp the last 5 years for him to be ranked number one is wholly average to marginal

wait a minute... Zab Judah had just lost to Baldomir when Floyd faced him. Stop trying to change history lmao! He also lost to Cory Spinks and was TKO'd by Tszyu.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...6945&cat=boxer

[therealpugilist]

wait a minute... Zab judah had just lost to baldomir when floyd faced him. Stop trying to change history lmao! He also lost to cory spinks and was tko'd by tszyu.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...6945&cat=boxer

can you read, i said judah lost to baldomir but held the ww title just prior to that....reading and comprehension is fundamental


im not trying to change history, im reciting it, fools like you try to forget or ignore facts


your point?....pacquaio got outboxed and outfought by a past prime morales, kayoed by a jww in marquez, 2 no names

[Khabash]

can you read, i said judah lost to baldomir but held the ww title just prior to that....reading and comprehension is fundamental


im not trying to change history, im reciting it, fools like you try to forget or ignore facts


your point?....pacquaio got outboxed and outfought by a past prime morales, kayoed by a jww in marquez, 2 no names

Exactly these fools love bringing up these Pac victories over Morales, Barrera and Cotto but forget how Floyd beat a prime Judah and then schooled Baldomir who was lineal.

[therealpugilist]

wait a minute... Zab Judah had just lost to Baldomir when Floyd faced him. Stop trying to change history lmao! He also lost to Cory Spinks and was TKO'd by Tszyu.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...6945&cat=boxer

So I guess Judah and Pacquaio were never elite at welterweight because they both had dec. and kayo losses at the weight by your estimation?


For the record bro....he lost to TSZYU @ 140 SO WHO IS REALLY TRYING TO CHANGE HISTORY?....HE WENT 1-1 WITH SPINKS BUT KO'ED HIM PRIOR TO LOSING TO BALDOMIR

HERE IS A HISTORY LESSON FOR YOUR ASS...

Since July of 05 Mayweather has fought and beat Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah, Baldomir, Ortiz, Maidana(2x), Mosley, DLH, COTTO, Hatton, Guerrero, Saul Alvarez, and Marquez

He defeated 12 top ten contenders in a row and 13 current/former world champions back to back...no one in this era has done that so if you think he is a cherrypicker or thinks he fights only people he thinks he can beat YOU ARE TROLLING AND DKSAB, well NEWSFLASH HE HAS BEEN A WORLD CHAMPION SINCE '98 HE THINKS HE CAN BEAT EVERYONE!!!