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  • LacedUp
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    #71
    Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
    First there hasnt even been negotiations or even talks or discussions so no the fight was not skipped due to injury. All we hear is the same thing that has been going on for a While, Brook wanting to fight Khan and Khan fighting someone else.

    Your wrong my friend. In America Thurman vs Khan would do better numbers. You cant tell me any different because your looking at it as a European fan. Thurman is the #1 contender to Mayweather for the WBA title and is interim champion, He is Ranked Higher then Khan by Ring Magazine, the WBA, and is ranked 7th by fight news where Brook is ranked 5th, and an Epilogue to his last fight is going to be aired on Showtime. Im sorry how many times has that happened for Brook? He also just white washed the #3 contender for the WBC. Compare more?
    Dude, you said: "Could he not have fought Brook instead of Alexander". And the answer to that is a firm no. You clearly have no clue.

    No I am looking at it as a fan of boxing in general, and a person who's been following boxing for a long time and a person who knows that some ranking is not a guarantee of ratings or money.

    Thurman simply isn't a big name in the states or in the UK or anywhere else. Brook is a big name in the UK and a world champion. If he's not as big a name as Thurman is in the states, he's probably comparable.

    Wow, that was just an idiotic comparison. But let's go down that route. #3 WBC You're too cute.

    Wupti do, he is ranked higher by 1 spot, over a guy who has 1 fight at WW. Guaranteed Khan will be ranked higher than Thurman in the next edition of Ring's rankings. His win over Alexander also smokes everything Thurman has on his resume.

    Brook beat the ring #4 and IBF WW champion, has beaten former WBA champion by KO, and beat the IBF #1 by KO in a couple of rounds with a jab. Other than porter, those wins do not mean anything though.

    His win over Porter is clearly better than Thurman's whole resume put together.
    Last edited by LacedUp; 12-15-2014, 11:36 PM.

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    • KnickTillDeaTh
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      #72
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Khan-Brook has to take place in the summer because it's an outdoor fight. It was never going to happen in December.

      You'd be lucky to get $1.5m to face Thurman right now whereas Khan and Brook make $5m a piece before PPV against each other. How can you not get this?
      Khan is not going 50-50 with Brook if the fight happens which it doesnt look like it will. Khan in a recent interview before the Alexander fight said he wants to fight Mayweather, Pac, Bradley and Garcia. he did not mention Brook and it doesnt seem to me that he wants that fight. It also doesnt seem that De La Hoya wants that fight either because Khan said it was De La Hoyas idea to chase these other fighters. And get this straight, i never said Khan would make more to fight Thurman thats ******, I never said he would make more to fight Bradley either i said Khan may get a bigger Purse to fight Bradley. Regardless Khan vs Thurman is a bigger fight in America then Khan vs Brook.

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        #73
        Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
        Khan is not going 50-50 with Brook if the fight happens which it doesnt look like it will. Khan in a recent interview before the Alexander fight said he wants to fight Mayweather, Pac, Bradley and Garcia. he did not mention Brook and it doesnt seem to me that he wants that fight. It also doesnt seem that De La Hoya wants that fight either because Khan said it was De La Hoyas idea to chase these other fighters. And get this straight, i never said Khan would make more to fight Thurman thats ******, I never said he would make more to fight Bradley either i said Khan may get a bigger Purse to fight Bradley. Regardless Khan vs Thurman is a bigger fight in America then Khan vs Brook.
        Oscar de la hoya:

        "If we can't get Mayweather or Pacquiao, we'll gladly go to Wembley and fill 100k to fight Kell Brook".

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          #74
          Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
          Khan is not going 50-50 with Brook if the fight happens which it doesnt look like it will. Khan in a recent interview before the Alexander fight said he wants to fight Mayweather, Pac, Bradley and Garcia. he did not mention Brook and it doesnt seem to me that he wants that fight. It also doesnt seem that De La Hoya wants that fight either because Khan said it was De La Hoyas idea to chase these other fighters. And get this straight, i never said Khan would make more to fight Thurman thats ******, I never said he would make more to fight Bradley either i said Khan may get a bigger Purse to fight Bradley. Regardless Khan vs Thurman is a bigger fight in America then Khan vs Brook.
          Bigger in what sense? It's about the same. Thurman is not a big name.

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            #75
            i like this fight make it happen .

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            • KnickTillDeaTh
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              #76
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              Dude, you said: "Could he not have fought Brook instead of Alexander". And the answer to that is a firm no. You clearly have no clue.

              No I am looking at it as a fan of boxing in general, and a person who's been following boxing for a long time and a person who knows that some ranking is not a guarantee of ratings or money.

              Thurman simply isn't a big name in the states or in the UK or anywhere else. Brook is a big name in the UK and a world champion. If he's not as big a name as Thurman is in the states, he's probably comparable.

              Wow, that was just an idiotic comparison. But let's go down that route. #3 WBC You're too cute.

              Wupti do, he is ranked higher by 1 spot, over a guy who has 1 fight at WW. Guaranteed Khan will be ranked higher than Thurman in the next edition of Ring's rankings. His win over Alexander also smokes everything Thurman has on his resume.

              Brook beat the ring #4 and IBF WW champion, has beaten former WBA champion by KO, and beat the IBF #1 by KO in a couple of rounds with a jab. Other than porter, those wins do not mean anything though.

              His win over Porter is clearly better than Thurman's whole resume put together.
              Those wins mean nothing because they are nothing. There is only one name on his resume and thats Porter, the same Porter who turned down Thruman because they perceived Brook to be the easier fight.

              They both have **** Resumes and the same amount of wins against former champions in which Thurman knocked out 2. Thurman has won 3 different alphabet titles one of which was at Jr middle weight. Brook has won 4 not including the British title because that title is not affiliated with any of the Major bodies. So your stance is Porter? lol

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              • Mr. Punch-Out!!
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                #77
                Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                I would favor brook over thurman


                Thurman is a good fighter and he can outslug a boxer, and outbox a slugger, but faced with a world caliber guy like brook with a good jab I think thurman gets outboxed..

                A boxer will outbox thurman, but won't outslug him
                A slugger will win a slugfest, but thurman can outbox them..
                But faced with a true world caliber boxer like brook and I think thurman eats a jab all night long as loses 116-112
                Where are people getting this idea that Thurman has trouble with boxers? I think you guys really underestimate Thurman. I've yet to see even the slightest that he has trouble with boxers.

                Thurman isn't going to give Brook opportunities to land those counter shots like Porter did. He's going to be smart and patiently pick his opportunities to land his shots. With his greater handspeed and power, I think Thurman will be the one outboxing Brook.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Mr. Punch-Out!!
                  Where are people getting this idea that Thurman has trouble with boxers? I think you guys really underestimate Thurman. I've yet to see even the slightest that he has trouble with boxers.

                  Thurman isn't going to give Brook opportunities to land those counter shots like Porter did. He's going to be smart and patiently pick his opportunities to land his shots. With his greater handspeed and power, I think Thurman will be the one outboxing Brook.
                  Name a world caliber technical boxer he has faced and beaten?

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                  • KnickTillDeaTh
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                    Bigger in what sense? It's about the same. Thurman is not a big name.
                    It would be higher rated on the American circuits. Here is a good example Geale has a major following overseas, Geale fights GGG and they get low numbers for a GGG fight at 758k at its highest peak. GGG fights Rubio who doesnt have as big a following as Geale yet GGG vs Rubio does the second best rating of 2014 (so far) with a 33% rise in viewer ship compared to the Geale fight. No doubt Khan vs Brook is major over seas but the hype would not reach these shores. I would watch either fight to be honest any match of the three should be a good fight.

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                    • LacedUp
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
                      Those wins mean nothing because they are nothing. There is only one name on his resume and thats Porter, the same Porter who turned down Thruman because they perceived Brook to be the easier fight.

                      They both have **** Resumes and the same amount of wins against former champions in which Thurman knocked out 2. Thurman has won 3 different alphabet titles one of which was at Jr middle weight. Brook has won 4 not including the British title because that title is not affiliated with any of the Major bodies. So your stance is Porter? lol
                      Dude, you just said Thurman beat the no 3 WBC contender, and now Kell Brook's win over no 1 IBF contender doesn't mean anything?

                      You can't have it both ways. Fact is, both wins didn't mean anything at all. And yes, Brook does have Porter. Who does Thurman have?

                      No, Brook was mandatory. Do your research. They had to fight Brook or be stripped. A fight with Thurman was definitely on the horizon if Porter beat Brook.

                      lol what alphabet titles?

                      I'm beginning to realize you don't know anything about boxing at all.

                      The Lonsdale belt is worth 100 times what an international title is worth.

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