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  • King_
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    #51
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    Not really excited for this fight, Jennings isn't really anything special. But it's good to see Wlad fighting a top 10 contender as a voluntary for the first time in something like 6 years, so good on him for that one.

    Expect a one-sided beat down.
    No. It's good to see a top 10 contender finally step up to the plate and fight Wlad for a voluntary defense.


    Don't try to confuse the trolls. Wlad fought crappy voluntary opponents the last 2 years because all of the top guys refused to fight him. I cannot stress that enough. Certain haters who DKSAB will read your post and run with it and preach that crap to try and spread the hate against Wlad to other likeminded people.


    Once again: Wlad hasn't had good voluntary defenses recently because all of the top fighters refused to fight him or said they "weren't ready," not because he didn't want to fight them or "cherry-picked" like other fighters out there.

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      #52
      Originally posted by TotalStud
      Transnational:

      C: Wladimir Klitschko

      1. Alexander Povetkin
      2. Tyson Fury
      3. Bermane Stiverne
      4. Kubrat Pulev
      5. Carlos Takam
      6. Deontay Wilder
      7. Vyacheslav Glazkov
      8. Bryant Jennings
      9. Steve Cunningham
      10. Mike Perez

      Cunningham is a very odd inclusion

      That's THREE top 10 HW's almost in a row, possibly 4 if Stiverne-WIlder steps up next year. And 2 of them were top 5.


      Anybody not having Wlad as the #1 P4P fighter should never be taken seriously. I mean seriously.... is there a fighter out there who consistently fights the top fighters like Wlad has been doing? Not only that but when hes NOT fighting top guys its because of mandatory opponents OR because none of the "top guys" want to fight him.


      How many other HW champions in the history of boxing have been ducked by Wlad? People were lining up to fight Tyson, Ali and Frazier....... Nobody wants to fight Wlad, in this current title reign, up until the last 365 days or so.

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      • RightJabLikeZab
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        #53
        It's a good fight. Jennings has some good wins and he's undefeated. We really don't need to criticize everything Wlad does. If he demolishes him that's more about how good he is than how not ready Jennings is.

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          #54
          Originally posted by King_
          No. It's good to see a top 10 contender finally step up to the plate and fight Wlad for a voluntary defense.


          Don't try to confuse the trolls. Wlad fought crappy voluntary opponents the last 2 years because all of the top guys refused to fight him. I cannot stress that enough. Certain haters who DKSAB will read your post and run with it and preach that crap to try and spread the hate against Wlad to other likeminded people.


          Once again: Wlad hasn't had good voluntary defenses recently because all of the top fighters refused to fight him or said they "weren't ready," not because he didn't want to fight them or "cherry-picked" like other fighters out there.
          Whatever makes you sleep at night..

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          • King_
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            #55
            Originally posted by LacedUp
            Whatever makes you sleep at night..
            Are you saying my post is NOT true?


            Name one single top fighter who would of fought Wlad at the time of those voluntary defenses besides David Haye..... I'll wait. (**hint** you can't) But hey, it's fun to hate on Wlad, eh?


            You're better then that. Stop trolling.

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              #56
              Originally posted by King_
              That's THREE top 10 HW's almost in a row, possibly 4 if Stiverne-WIlder steps up next year. And 2 of them were top 5.

              Anybody not having Wlad as the #1 P4P fighter should never be taken seriously. I mean seriously.... is there a fighter out there who consistently fights the top fighters like Wlad has been doing? Not only that but when hes NOT fighting top guys its because of mandatory opponents OR because none of the "top guys" want to fight him.

              How many other HW champions in the history of boxing have been ducked by Wlad? People were lining up to fight Tyson, Ali and Frazier....... Nobody wants to fight Wlad, in this current title reign, up until the last 365 days or so.
              You're speaking as if fighting top 10 opposition is some kind of achievement by a heavyweight champion? It's supposed to be that way and it has always been that way. The very fact that a heavyweight champion has chosen to fight someone outside of the top 15 on regular basis should be condemned as opposed to praising him for fighting the guys he's supposed to fight.

              And yes, there's plenty of guys fighting more higher ranked and better opposition every time they fight.

              The bold is completely false. Rahman, Mormeck, Wach, Pianeta et al were all outside the top 15 and 20 in some cases and were all voluntary defences.

              The last part is completely ridiculous also. People weren't exactly running to fight Tyson

              People wanted to fight Ali or Frazier because it was a guaranteed life-time highest purse, especially Ali. Fighters nowadays make just as much fighting someone else than fighting Wlad.

              Originally posted by King_
              Are you saying my post is NOT true?

              Name one single top fighter who would of fought Wlad at the time of those voluntary defenses besides David Haye..... I'll wait. (**hint** you can't) But hey, it's fun to hate on Wlad, eh?

              You're better then that. Stop trolling.
              Well you're the one saying that everyone else refused to fight him, which indicates an offer has been made. So I would like you to present proof of your statement which is that all the other contenders refused to fight Wlad i.e. rejected a contractual offer. (**hint** you can't)

              I'm not trolling. I'm giving you a peace of advice, which is to not just blindly believe everything you read on a forum by someone in love with your favourite fighter.

              There's a lot of reasons why Wlad doesn't fight the best guys out there and fear of Wlad is certainly not one of them.
              Last edited by LacedUp; 12-03-2014, 10:32 PM.

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                #57
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                You're speaking as if fighting top 10 opposition is some kind of achievement by a heavyweight champion? It's supposed to be that way and it has always been that way. The very fact that a heavyweight champion has chosen to fight someone outside of the top 15 on regular basis should be condemned as opposed to praising him for fighting the guys he's supposed to fight.

                And yes, there's plenty of guys fighting more higher ranked and better opposition every time they fight.

                The bold is completely false. Rahman, Mormeck, Wach, Pianeta et al were all outside the top 15 and 20 in some cases and were all voluntary defences.

                The last part is completely ridiculous also. People weren't exactly running to fight Tyson

                People wanted to fight Ali or Frazier because it was a guaranteed life-time highest purse, especially Ali. Fighters nowadays make just as much fighting someone else than fighting Wlad.



                Well you're the one saying that everyone else refused to fight him, which indicates an offer has been made. So I would like you to present proof of your statement which is that all the other contenders refused to fight Wlad i.e. rejected a contractual offer. (**hint** you can't)

                I'm not trolling. I'm giving you a peace of advice, which is to not just blindly believe everything you read on a forum by someone in love with your favourite fighter.

                There's a lot of reasons why Wlad doesn't fight the best guys out there and fear of Wlad is certainly not one of them.

                What are you talking about? I said Wlad fought Mormeck, Pianeta, and Wach because NO top fighter wanted to fight him.


                Seriously, what are you talking about? Multiple top 10 fighters rejected to fight him.... Whether he sent the contract or not, they were on record saying they weren't ready. So, Wlad stayed busy. Is he not supposed to fight because no top fighter wants to fight him?


                Here is my point, that you somehow overlooked: Wladimir Klitschko fought Wach, Mormeck and Pianeta because no top fighter wanted to fight him at time of those dates. When did I say it's an accomplishment to fight top 10 fighters? You're twisting my words..... I'm saying he's wanted to and WANTS to fight top 10 guys, up until Povetkin/Pulev.... they were rejecting the opportunity to fight him. Fury, Povetkin, Pulev, etc.... ALL said they weren't ready for Wlad at the time of the Pianeta fight, for example.


                What don't you understand about that? Like I said, everything I said about guys not wanting to fight him until Povetkin last year is true.... Wlad fought those crappy voluntary opponents because no one else was willing to fight him. Period.

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                  #58
                  Jennings is by no means a big puncher so does he expect to win a decision against Wlad? To beat Wlad you have to be able to knock him out. Jennings doesn't stand a chance.

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                    #59
                    Leapai, Pulev, Pianeta, Mormeck, Whack now Jennings? Really? Who next Briggs? Oliver McCall?
                    **** supporting this guy and his embarrassing run. I'm done.

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                    • LacedUp
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by King_
                      What are you talking about? I said Wlad fought Mormeck, Pianeta, and Wach because NO top fighter wanted to fight him.

                      Seriously, what are you talking about? Multiple top 10 fighters rejected to fight him.... Whether he sent the contract or not, they were on record saying they weren't ready. So, Wlad stayed busy. Is he not supposed to fight because no top fighter wants to fight him?

                      Here is my point, that you somehow overlooked: Wladimir Klitschko fought Wach, Mormeck and Pianeta because no top fighter wanted to fight him at time of those dates. When did I say it's an accomplishment to fight top 10 fighters? You're twisting my words..... I'm saying he's wanted to and WANTS to fight top 10 guys, up until Povetkin/Pulev.... they were rejecting the opportunity to fight him. Fury, Povetkin, Pulev, etc.... ALL said they weren't ready for Wlad at the time of the Pianeta fight, for example.


                      What don't you understand about that? Like I said, everything I said about guys not wanting to fight him until Povetkin last year is true.... Wlad fought those crappy voluntary opponents because no one else was willing to fight him. Period.
                      Yes you did. and that's not true. Unless you can provide proof? Because I have multiple vidoes of Tyson Fury calling Wlad out, I have a newspaper clip of Wlad specifically saying the winner of Chisora & Fury in 2012 would get a shot, yet Fury wasn't offered a shot.

                      Since you claim ALL top contenders REFUSED to fight him, just provide some proof of ALL top contenders refusing to fight him? You state it as fact, so you must be able to provide some proof right?

                      Adamek, Boytsov, Glazkov, Helenius, Fury, Arreola, Dimitrenko, Stiverne, Solis, Perez, Price, Wilder, Chisora, Ruiz jr, Charr, Browne etc etc. These are all contenders who were higher ranked than the ones Klitschko has fought as voluntaries since 2011.

                      Can you please find me proof that these guys have all rejected a fight with Klitschko? If you can't, then please stop talking out of your arse and understand the basic principle of professional boxing.

                      It's all about the benjamins. Why do you think both Haye, Povetkin, Pulev, Chisora etc have been complaining about K2 trying to sign them to a 3 fight agreement? This means if Wladimir/Vitali gets beat, then they'll have to fight him again - they beat him again then they'll have to fight the brother.

                      Now, because of this reason coupled with the fact that Wladimir makes the same amount of money whether he fights Jennings or some unknown therefore not offering big purses to his opponents, is why the fighters chose to go the mandatory route.

                      If Klitschko offered more than a couple of hundred grand to their opponent, then it would make sense to fight him. Because it's a high risk and these guys risk losing their '0' and therefore their marketability for a very low amount of money.

                      Chisora for instance made $300k (US) vs Vitali whereas he made triple that at the weekend vs Tyson Fury.

                      So basically, what you're claiming is a very childish and one-sided view on things with nothing but baseless logic and no proof to back-up your claim that they were 'avoiding' Wlad.

                      Guys like Wach, Mormeck, Pianeta etc are used to fight for nothing more or less which means a 100k payday is an opportunity for them.

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