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George Foreman is the GOAT not Ali
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Originally posted by -Weltschmerz- View PostAli avoided the rematch, since Foreman wouldn't rehire Sadler as trainer - Ali probably didn't want all those body shots all over again. There was a story that he was pissing blood in the dressing room after the fight due to the pummeling Foreman gave him. Maybe a tad bit scared he got.
Point is, Foreman beat himself in Africa, and he could have beaten Ali with a trainer who didn't pace him constantly in that fight like Sadler did. Foreman was the champion going into that fight, he could have Ali come to him.Originally posted by -Weltschmerz- View PostThe argument is there. This notion that Ali has to be the GOAT is getting a bit old as time goes on. He didn't exactly end his career very champion-like, did he.
Foreman is more impressive. He was out for a decade, came back, eventually world champ again aged 45.
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This is some self serving bull****. You don't even care about Foreman you just want a pat on the back. Ali the GOAT? According to who? Himself? What about Robinson? Ezzard Charles? Joe Louis? Hank Armstrong? Jack Dempsey? SRL? Whitaker?
News Flash to people on this site, when your discussing the GOAT its not limited to Heavyweights
Oh and P4P H2H James Toney would **** all over Foreman, call him a punk and bust him with counter rights all night.
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Lmao ,"calls foreman the goat not ali". Ali straight manhadled and tricked foreman, same would have happened in a rematch, ali is a very smart fighter.
Goes for the typical excuse "(insert loser here)would beat his azz in rematch" lmao bruh
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Originally posted by ImStillHere View PostThis is some self serving bull****. You don't even care about Foreman you just want a pat on the back. Ali the GOAT? According to who? Himself? What about Robinson? Ezzard Charles? Joe Louis? Hank Armstrong? Jack Dempsey? SRL? Whitaker?
News Flash to people on this site, when your discussing the GOAT its not limited to Heavyweights
Oh and P4P H2H James Toney would **** all over Foreman, call him a punk and bust him with counter rights all night.
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Originally posted by Elroy1 View PostExcept Ali never won against an opponent as good as Briggs (except perhaps Foreman himself). And Foreman really did beat Briggs.
Kind of ****s all over that.
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Originally posted by BKM-2010 View PostIt reeks of extreme butthurt. Ali completely outboxed him, took everything he had to offer without being stunned once, knocked him the living **** out, humiliated him, stole his soul and made him look like an animal who wore a pair of gloves for the first time in his life. It was so bad that you got fanboys like this who simply can't believe it and have to assume it's some kind of freak of nature event or even a conspiracy. LOL. 4 decades later and Ali, the GOAT, still has doubters because his legacy is larger than life. It's just too good to be true, it can't be real because it's like a real life Hollywood movie. It can't be, it just can't!
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I think overall Foreman was the better fighter between he and Ali. But as I've said about Ali many times before... He is a cult of personality foremost and a fighter second, so it's difficult to reason with his television-weened worshipers.
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Originally posted by -Weltschmerz- View PostThe argument is there. This notion that Ali has to be the GOAT is getting a bit old as time goes on. He didn't exactly end his career very champion-like, did he.
Foreman is more impressive. He was out for a decade, came back, eventually world champ again aged 45.
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