Pulev is garbage; the HW div. is trash.

[LacedUp]

Vlad looked good last night, his clinching wasn't excessive and Pulev clinched equally when you look at the fight. They have similar styles to an extent and for this reason ended up in clinches quite often, which was swiftly broken up by the ref.

Looks like Johnathon Banks is doing good work, Vlad looked mobile, light on his feet, quick, threw a better variety of combinations than we usually see. I personally believe that was one of his better performances in years and he doesn't look one bit slowed down in any department.

He makes quality opponents look lesser because he is so superior. Pulev is the 2nd best HW in the world and he came to fight.

Good fight.

This guy also said wlad was the greatest ever based on his win over Pianeta.

Ah, Klitschko fans. You're too cute.

[5burowz]

That doesn't make sense and simply isn't true..

Sure, BEFORE a boxer hits top level they can pad, but as soon as they raise their competition level, they are expected to fight quality opponents.

We can go 2 or 3 levels deep here too and we see the same thing. Better records all around. This is because there are simply more boxers overall and those with very poor records are eliminated before you know about them.

Yesterdays champions, are todays bums, sorry.

On the weight, weight is ALWAYS an advantage in boxing. The greater the weight discrepancy, the greater the chances the heftier guy will win, this is an irrefutable fact and the reasons for divisions.

And there have always been boxers who are chubby in every era, but there have never been as athletic boxers as there are now.

Chubby boxers can be successful at HW. HW boxing is not a sport where it is always best to be lean. There is nothing about chub detrimental to boxing, it's performance that matters.

You really don't know much about boxing...that much is clear

[Szef]

Weebler is schooling haters without even breaking a sweat

[LacedUp]

I don't think so, Pulev got the better of the jab exchanges and I don't think the punch stats were one-sided (2 power punches in it?). It seems Pulev had prepared to avoid the big right hand but forgot to focus on the left hook which was the key to the win for Wlad.

It's easy to call it unskilled when we're used to watching little guys with their fast movement etc but these are big men, the skills aren't always as obvious, but they're definitely there.

This doesn't make any sense.

Either you see the skills or you don't. Big men have problems developing similar skills to smaller fighters, therefore they just don't have them. they aren't hidden as you seem to suggest. Especially when he could stand to lose an extra 15 lbs.

Anyone can take two looks at Poolev and see his "skills" are non existent and the only thing he has going for him is an OK jab. He doesn't have good precision, his feet seem to be planted in cement, his head movement is non-existent. He only throws the jab. Basically he has a very amateurish style.

Where are the skills supposed to be?

[Elroy1]

You really don't know much about boxing...that much is clear

Either you DO know but are choosing not to play ridiculous games for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

OR

I have forgotten more than you know about it!

[LacedUp]

Either you DO know but are choosing not to play ridiculous games for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

OR

I have forgotten more than you know about it!

OR you actually don't know and resort to lies to play down the achievements of previous fighters.

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Pulev didn't look great to me. Too stiff, no head movement. That's bread and butter to Wlad.

Let's be honest though, he's more or less unbeatable. The only man i can see causing him any problems is Tyson Fury, and while he might cause Wlad some issues early, i think Fury will GTFO once Wlad figures him out and starts unleashing those big rights.

I'm not a fan of Wlad, i think he holds far too much, but i will say that he's a great champion, and a great ambassador for the sport.

[Elroy1]

This doesn't make any sense.

Either you see the skills or you don't. Big men have problems developing similar skills to smaller fighters, therefore they just don't have them. they aren't hidden as you seem to suggest. Especially when he could stand to lose an extra 15 lbs.

Anyone can take two looks at Poolev and see his "skills" are non existent and the only thing he has going for him is an OK jab. He doesn't have good precision, his feet seem to be planted in cement, his head movement is non-existent. He only throws the jab. Basically he has a very amateurish style.

Where are the skills supposed to be?

Taller men have a more challenging balance. When they DO develop it though they are far more effective. They can even be more effective anyway simply by utilising their length advantage.

Heavier boxers have always been and still are more dangerous than smaller ones no matter what.

The skills are the same.

Being larger can affect your stamina & speed negatively. Which is why larger fighters need to fight at a more measured pace. Obviously these things are more than compensated for by the benefits.

How do you explain that some of these 240lb tall fighters are actually FASTER than cruiser sized boxers of the past also? WK for instance is faster than most of Ali's opponents AND bigger. Stiverne's fists move quicker than Frazier's did! Nikolay Valuev at 320lbs was faster than 215lb Sonny Liston!

And speaking of pure skills, objective analysis of current HW's compared to past HW's shows clearly better form and technique than olden days BY SO FAR IT IS UNBELIEVABLE YOUD EVEN TRY TO COMPARE. Previous boxers fought like drunks by comparison!

[daggum]

That doesn't make sense and simply isn't true..

Sure, BEFORE a boxer hits top level they can pad, but as soon as they raise their competition level, they are expected to fight quality opponents.

We can go 2 or 3 levels deep here too and we see the same thing. Better records all around. This is because there are simply more boxers overall and those with very poor records are eliminated before you know about them.

Yesterdays champions, are todays bums, sorry.

On the weight, weight is ALWAYS an advantage in boxing. The greater the weight discrepancy, the greater the chances the heftier guy will win, this is an irrefutable fact and the reasons for divisions.

And there have always been boxers who are chubby in every era, but there have never been as athletic boxers as there are now.

Chubby boxers can be successful at HW. HW boxing is not a sport where it is always best to be lean. There is nothing about chub detrimental to boxing, it's performance that matters.

not true. huck was robbed against povetkin who is the #1 or 2 heavyweight since wlad should have been dq'd. cunningham beat adamek and mansour. chambers was beaten by a cruiserweight. boxing is about skills more than size. some guys are so big that they can no longer box effectively.

why wasn't butterbean a champ if weight is an advantage? its science not opinion. being chubby effects your stamina, agility, mobility and other factors in negative ways. people in other eras were in much better shape hence they weren't as big.

[5burowz]

Either you DO know but are choosing not to play ridiculous games for the reasons I mentioned earlier.

OR

I have forgotten more than you know about it!

I've been watching boxing for 30 years you pleb