Pulev is garbage; the HW div. is trash.

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  • 5burowz
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    #211
    Originally posted by daggum
    tony weeks was chosen because he's terrible. they knew they could trust him after seeing garcia-matthysse. nobody finds it strange that the same 10 or so refs are in every major fight? are they really the best? i hear tony weeks and kenny bayless are so good but then i see them clearly letting a-side fighters do whatever they want. it's a cycle. if they protect the a-side fighters they will get more big fights. if weeks had dq'd wlad he would be working at the snack shack.
    Weeks is not a good ref

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      #212
      The modern heavyweight division is a joke, people talking about the Klitch bro's and other ****ty heavyweight's like they mean something. People always compare them to boxers from the golden era and actually think this generation of boxers have a chance, what a joke.

      The generation of HW's now are full of slow jabs and long clinch's, all it takes is one, fast power puncher to rise from all the other ****ty Heavy Weights and bring the HW division back, I just hope it happens some time soon so I'm not stuck watching Wlad nipple tussle with some other bum for a period of 12 rounds.

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        #213
        Originally posted by daggum
        but the clinching is the main reason he destroyed him. you can't just cast it aside. he destroyed him by essentially cheating nonstop and not letting his opponent throw punches until he could line up the perfect shot. that seems wrong to me but i guess its cool if you get a good knockout.
        It's a small part of the reason, it's true that when Wlad would get hit he would basically jump on Pulev. But the major reason for the win was the power differential.

        The question is when is Wlad going to get a ref who warns him or stops him holding? the answer is never.

        For the most part, referees just don't penalise holding. Diego Chaves was penalised this year by Draculich, but that was a B-side and it came after a lot of complaining. He penalised Khan for holding too but way too late in Round 11.
        Last edited by Weebler I; 11-16-2014, 05:10 AM.

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          #214
          Originally posted by -Antonio-
          That was an incredible performance by Wlad. For a man to be that big and throw feint/lead left hooks like that is just impressive. He was throwing punches like RJJ used to throw.
          Look no one likes the clinching. I hate it. It's still annoying how often he does it. But you have got to give the man his due. He destroyed a guy who was supposed to at least be competitive.

          I've heard it all now

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            #215
            Originally posted by Ray Corso
            Reason why boxing is in the shape it's in!

            There is little to no talent in the Heavyweight division!!

            The Heavyweight Champion is a limited oversized fellow who misses often and clinches after every miss and his opponents are worse than he is!

            What a disgrace that so-called titled fight was!!! Two great big awkward guys who can't throw straight punches to set up combinations.
            The KO came from Wlad feinting a jab to the body (ducking down) then leaping a left hook in. He did a few times and the guy never adjusted to it!!

            Rock em' Sock em' Robots!!!! It's the Drago Era I mean Wlad and boxing suffers from it!

            No talent, no skill level, zero technique and their Methods are holding, leaning, and missing!!!


            What a waste of time!!!!!

            Ray.
            Well if this is true, which it clearly isn't, then surely a guy of your training genius could make millions training one of your young fighters up to beat them all right Ray?

            I mean all of these trainers know nothing anymore, basically training robots right? Surely that'd make you somewhat of a god among them, being the only one who knows the forgotten art of boxing right?

            Your blindness never ceases to amaze me.

            Leader of the nut bags.

            Elroy

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            • Elroy1
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              #216
              Originally posted by 5burowz
              No, it really isn't.
              Taking a snapshot at any particular time during it, yes it was

              You don't think Moorer could beat any of the opponents from your original list. That's funny.
              You might find it funny.

              But it's still accurate

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                #217
                Originally posted by Mike Bison
                The modern heavyweight division is a joke, people talking about the Klitch bro's and other ****ty heavyweight's like they mean something. People always compare them to boxers from the golden era and actually think this generation of boxers have a chance, what a joke.

                The generation of HW's now are full of slow jabs and long clinch's, all it takes is one, fast power puncher to rise from all the other ****ty Heavy Weights and bring the HW division back, I just hope it happens some time soon so I'm not stuck watching Wlad nipple tussle with some other bum for a period of 12 rounds.
                Golden era were mostly cruiserweights by today's standards. There's a lot of bitterness from the other side of the Atlantic regarding today's HW division because it's not their guys on top, that's just the truth. This was an entertaining fight between two of the best in the division, Wlad was ultimately too good. Hey ho, c'est la vie.

                US fans need to get used to it though because I'm afraid Deontay Wilder and Bryant Jennings aren't going to cut it.
                Last edited by Weebler I; 11-16-2014, 05:17 AM.

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                • 5burowz
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by Weebler I
                  90s HWs were roided to the hilt, bunch of cheats for the most part. They don't deserve to be talked up.

                  Is Pulev garbage? we don't know, you're just using the eye test against an all time great heavyweight, we need to see more of him.

                  He was good enough to dominate America's best heavyweight, although granted that isn't saying a great deal.
                  And you're high as a kite if you believe Wlad is clean.

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                    #219
                    Originally posted by 5burowz
                    And you're high as a kite if you believe Wlad is clean.
                    Wlad took random testing for the Povetkin fight, he's taking a post-fight blood test for Pulev. Why shouldn't I believe he's clean?

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                      #220
                      Originally posted by Weebler I
                      Golden era were mostly cruiserweights by today's standards. There's a lot of bitterness from the other side of the Atlantic regarding today's HW division because it's not their guys on top, that's just the truth.

                      They need to get used to it though because Deontay Wilder and Bryant Jennings aren't going to cut it.


                      That has **** all to do with it. The postulating of supposed nationalism as being the reason Wlad is hated on is simply because the Wlad supporters simply don't have a counter argument that holds weight. My dislike of Wlad and this current HW div. has nothing to do with nationalism, skin color, etc. The very idea of people believing that disgusts me to no end.

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