Who Is The Greatest Mexican Fighter Of All-Time?

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  • richardt
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    Ricardo Lopez is entirely overrated. All he had to do was eat one pancake and he could have entered the million dollar flyweight sweepstakes with Carbajaul and Gonzales and he decided to stay where he was and fight 10-1 thai kickboxers instead. In spite of being extremely tall and rangy where he could easily have carried the weight. He should have fought in 3-4 divisions but he stayed in a division where the two biggest names he fought were no where near HOF/ATG status. There is no way in hell this guy should be mentioned anywhere near the great fighters who fought great fighters.

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    • Journeyman
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      #42
      Julio Cesar Chavez Senior!

      On a side note, even though I do not see him as the greatest mexican boxer of all time by any stretch, why is Erik Morales not on the list with Barrera and JMM?

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        #43
        Originally posted by richardt
        Ricardo Lopez is entirely overrated. All he had to do was eat one pancake and he could have entered the million dollar flyweight sweepstakes with Carbajaul and Gonzales and he decided to stay where he was and fight 10-1 thai kickboxers instead. In spite of being extremely tall and rangy where he could easily have carried the weight. He should have fought in 3-4 divisions but he stayed in a division where the two biggest names he fought were no where near HOF/ATG status. There is no way in hell this guy should be mentioned anywhere near the great fighters who fought great fighters.
        I agree with this. Lopez was as close to perfect as a boxer can be technique wise, but he lacks the resume.

        Morales is being so underrated in this thread also. He is a top 10 Mexican great. He's still better than Marquez to me to, who outside of the Pac win, has an average resume.

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        • Ringlife
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          #44
          For me it's Ricardo Lopez plus that's My dads favorite fighter too, that's who I grew up watching. My brother's favorite fighter is Julio Chavez.

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            #45
            hands down ricardo lopez for me.

            second place is difficult, i probably rate marquez slightly ahead of chavez and then there is another drop before sanchez at 4.

            sanchez was great, he proved that. its unfair he didnt get the chance to show just how great but it would be more unfair to elevate him above more accomplished fighters based on speculation of what he might have achieved.

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              #46
              Originally posted by #1Assassin
              hands down ricardo lopez for me.

              second place is difficult, i probably rate marquez slightly ahead of chavez and then there is another drop before sanchez at 4.

              sanchez was great, he proved that. its unfair he didnt get the chance to show just how great but it would be more unfair to elevate him above more accomplished fighters based on speculation of what he might have achieved.
              "speculation of what he might have achieved"? The man STOPPED 3 HALL OF FAME fighters, ONE nearing his prime and TWO actively in their prime! You meant to say "speculation of what LOPEZ might have achieved" because he did not fight one single fighter anywhere near ATG/ HOF status and Sanchez fought three. You have Lopez and Sanchez names totally mixed up!
              Last edited by richardt; 11-15-2014, 01:47 PM.

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              • VAGAB0ND
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                #47
                Let me throw this out there: Baby Arizmendi beat Henry Armstrong TWICE, and he also beat Chalky Wright TWICE.

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                • VAGAB0ND
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Aztekkas
                  I guess I'm biased because growing up my father would always mention Chava whenever we watched boxing. He would always sigh and tell me about what he could have been, sadly his life was cut way too short.

                  Annihilating Lopez x2, Gomez, a good fighter in Castillo and of course Nelson at 23 was extremely solid and painted for a star studded career. He had movement, above average power, in ring boxing IQ, in other words he was a well rounded boxer.

                  Yo, quick question for all my Sal fanboys. At one point in Sal's career, was he attempting to change his nickname? I don't remember which fight it was but when they announced his as a the winner I believe they called him, Salvador " El Assessino" Sanchez. Can someone confirm? (I don't want to go back scavenging through the tapes )
                  I'm gonna have to look into the bold. An assassin he was, .

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                  • VAGAB0ND
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Tha_Greatest
                    if erik morales ended his career after the 1st pacquiao fight with a career record of 48 and 2(only 2 losses 2 barrera but 1 win for erik vs barrera)
                    Only IF. Either way Morales is one of the greatest in Mexican history. I agree with you though, if he retired at 48-2 with all those names on his resume he would definitely be in the discussion for Mexico's best ever and one of the best in boxing history period.

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                    • Tha_Greatest
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by VAGAB0ND
                      Only IF. Either way Morales is one of the greatest in Mexican history. I agree with you though, if he retired at 48-2 with all those names on his resume he would definitely be in the discussion for Mexico's best ever and one of the best in boxing history period.
                      no way in hell is barrera greater than morales

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