Prime Tyson vs Prime Frazier

[Elroy1]

Yeah mate, went to Melbourne more than a month ago.

Where are you based?

Adelaide. Just a timezone away.

[LacedUp]

Adelaide. Just a timezone away.

I hear it's kind of rough in the north part of the city over there.

[M Bison]

Best part of my day?

It's 10:30 in the morning where I am fella. Oh great, another one of my insults that you use against me? you really need to step up your game ginger face.

You don't know how old I am or what I do.

But hey, I don't really care. I'll bet anything i'm better off than you are.

"My insult" ?

Another pointer to prove what an immature little man you are

[Elroy1]

Borderline ******ed? No he wasn't. He was very young when he joined the NOI and they told him what he wanted to hear, and maybe he was a little brainwashed with some of the aspects of that. But you and I can not judge what a black person who grew up in a time of legal segregation feels about his world. Let's get that much clear.

Basic thing is this, and I second this.

I think it was Jeremiah Shabazz from Ali's entourage who said something along these lines:

"there might be someone who would beat Ali, but I don't really care about that. He's the greatest champion the people ever saw because of what he did for the people".

Ok, so someone in his entourage makes claims of greatness for Ali. That's original! It's there job to promote him!

And it's for a subjective and out of ring reason at that.

Now the statement itself, what EXACTLY did he do for the people?

How charitable was the man?

Did he help everybody or only black ppl?

How exactly did he help them? Empower them? Yeah that may be true, good on him for that.

Somehow I don't think he was the "god" this guy claims he was though.

[LacedUp]

Ok, so someone in his entourage makes claims of greatness for Ali. That's original! It's there job to promote him!

And it's for a subjective and out of ring reason at that.

Now the statement itself, what EXACTLY did he do for the people?

How charitable was the man?

Did he help everybody or only black ppl?

How exactly did he help them? Empower them? Yeah that may be true, good on him for that.

Somehow I don't think he was the "god" this guy claims he was though.

Trust me, you don't want to go into this.

There's no a athlete/celebrity dead or alive, that did what Ali did.

With regards to Shabazz, he said it in a book that was written 20 years after Ali's career finished. Of course he's going to have bias for Ali because he loves him. But I still agree with the statement.

[Elroy1]

I hear it's kind of rough in the north part of the city over there.

Lived there for awhile going back about 8 or 9 years ago, not the most lucrative area no

When I moved there, people wondered where I was going at the same time everyday and arriving home same time as well. They assumed I must have been a drug dealer.

They never suspected I had a job

[M Bison]

I know enough about you to know what I need to know.

Oh no, you feel embarrassed for me? How can I live with the fat ginger kid from Scotland who's been following boxing for 2 years, feeling embarrassed for me?!

Oh so we have to resort to stereotypes?
I thought you weren't for racism...
Or is it only when you're being made out to look like a petty little petulant child?

[Elroy1]

Trust me, you don't want to go into this.

There's no a athlete dead or alive, that did what Ali did.

Hey, I am not knocking any of it yet am I?

So far I've seen nothing but negativity from Ali.

I'm genuinely interested in the other side of the coin.

You can't say he did great things and then not outline specifically what your on about. I am only interested in facts.

[LacedUp]

Oh so we have to resort to stereotypes?
I thought you weren't for racism...
Or is it only when you're being made out to look like a petty little petulant child?

Are gingers actually a race?

Am I though? I can be a petulant little child, I still know 10 x more about boxing than you which is good enough for me.

[LacedUp]

Lived there for awhile going back about 8 or 9 years ago, not the most lucrative area no

When I moved there, people wondered where I was going at the same time everyday and arriving home same time as well. They assumed I must have been a drug dealer.

They never suspected I had a job

I could imagine. Heard a lot of bad things about the place as my mate runs a big cheesefactory (i know) in the country and sometimes he goes through it.

Melbourne CBD is practically crime free. And I met Ricky Hatton here the other day for the races.